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Anybody feel like this is ironically going to accelerate the decline of twitter? I'm never, EVER making a twitter account. However publishers still communicate

Anybody feel like this is ironically going to accelerate the decline of twitter? I'm never, EVER making a twitter account. However publishers still communicate with me via tweets I could see. Now that I need an account to view tweets, publishers just have a smaller audience. I'll just see the screenshots on reddit anyway :)

jccooper 3y ago
All sorts of services seem to think that mandatory accounts drive "engagement". No doubt it works on certain metrics. Long term... we'll see. I know I still don't have a Pinterest account.
londons_explore 3y ago
> Anybody feel like this is ironically going to accelerate the decline of twitter? If Musks claim today is true ("This platform hit another all-time high in user-seconds last week"), then it is very much not in decline...
- deciplex 3y ago
  anything that elon musk says is true by coincidence only
- sangnoir 3y ago
  That's a fancy way to say it's infested by scraping bots, which makes sense since its been weeks since the API was dropped
- FiberBundle 3y ago
  Well it likely isn't true [1]. Musk seems to come across more and more as a perpetual liar. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/twitter-seeing-record-user-engagement-the-data-tells-a-different-story/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/twitter-seeing-record-user-eng...
agnosticmantis 3y ago
He needs revenue right now, and the other monetization efforts haven't panned out (blue checks, advertising, etc.). So he's trying to make a quick buck from user-generated data now that the LLM rush is at an all time high. For that he needs to limit access to the data in the first place, otherwise nobody would be paying for publicly available data.
- dehrmann 3y ago
  This is how death spirals work. Twitter was treading water a year ago. Taking on lots of debt caused mass layoffs, worrying people about site stability and making them investigate other platforms. A lot of bad tweets scared away advertisers, causing more layoffs and desperation. Signed-in users engage more, so make all users signed-in users (no logical fallacies here).
  - Choco31415 3y ago
    I’m learning more about the Twitter situation slowly. Why did it take on massive debt?
    - minimaxir 3y ago
      Because Elon was forced to overpay for Twitter and getting that much money is difficult.
      - dehrmann 3y ago
        Saying he was "forced to overpay" isn't a fair characterization. As a joke that went too far, he voluntarily offered to overpay at what in hindsight was the peak, then signed a contract making it official. He was only forced to uphold the contract.
        minimaxir 3y ago
        Fair elaboration.

jccooper 3y ago

All sorts of services seem to think that mandatory accounts drive "engagement". No doubt it works on certain metrics. Long term... we'll see. I know I still don't have a Pinterest account.

londons_explore 3y ago

> Anybody feel like this is ironically going to accelerate the decline of twitter? If Musks claim today is true ("This platform hit another all-time high in user-seconds last week"), then it is very much not in decline...

deciplex 3y ago
anything that elon musk says is true by coincidence only
sangnoir 3y ago
That's a fancy way to say it's infested by scraping bots, which makes sense since its been weeks since the API was dropped
FiberBundle 3y ago
Well it likely isn't true [1]. Musk seems to come across more and more as a perpetual liar. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/twitter-seeing-record-user-engagement-the-data-tells-a-different-story/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/twitter-seeing-record-user-eng...

agnosticmantis 3y ago

He needs revenue right now, and the other monetization efforts haven't panned out (blue checks, advertising, etc.). So he's trying to make a quick buck from user-generated data now that the LLM rush is at an all time high. For that he needs to limit access to the data in the first place, otherwise nobody would be paying for publicly available data.

dehrmann 3y ago
This is how death spirals work. Twitter was treading water a year ago. Taking on lots of debt caused mass layoffs, worrying people about site stability and making them investigate other platforms. A lot of bad tweets scared away advertisers, causing more layoffs and desperation. Signed-in users engage more, so make all users signed-in users (no logical fallacies here).
- Choco31415 3y ago
  I’m learning more about the Twitter situation slowly. Why did it take on massive debt?
  - minimaxir 3y ago
    Because Elon was forced to overpay for Twitter and getting that much money is difficult.
    - dehrmann 3y ago
      Saying he was "forced to overpay" isn't a fair characterization. As a joke that went too far, he voluntarily offered to overpay at what in hindsight was the peak, then signed a contract making it official. He was only forced to uphold the contract.
      - minimaxir 3y ago
        Fair elaboration.