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RIP Bacon Reader. Reddit, you’ve burned so much goodwill. I’ve been an enthusiastic user for over 14 years. Now I’m planning to delete my content. At one poi

by tspike 3y ago

RIP Bacon Reader. Reddit, you’ve burned so much goodwill. I’ve been an enthusiastic user for over 14 years. Now I’m planning to delete my content. At one point recently, I got excited about applying for an engineering leadership position with you, but this debacle has made me realize your senior leadership is not who I want to be reporting to.

goda90 3y ago
Please don't delete it without adding it to the Internet archive first
- sentientslug 3y ago
  Putting the content somewhere else defeats the whole purpose of deleting it.
  - wardedVibe 3y ago
    not really, it'd be outside the garden wall, and thus not monetizable by reddit
    - mptest 3y ago
      Can reddit issue requests to archive or whichever site is used to do it and have them taken down ? Or worse yet, rebuild their deleted history from the archives and THEN issue takedowns? I am realizing I have no serious idea how archival of digital content works legally.
      - kemayo 3y ago
        User-provided content is provided under a license between the user providing it and the site hosting it -- inherently, because otherwise the site wouldn't be allowed to do anything with it at all. Generally this takes the form of the site's ToS saying that the user gives the site a perpetual license to use the content however they want, but generally not an exclusive license. As such, and I'm not a lawyer and can't promise this is true, I suspect that reddit couldn't actually do takedowns on someone who's archiving their user-provided content. Any specific user whose content was archived without their consent could do so, however.
      - KMnO4 3y ago
        When Reddit owns the delete button, they control what happens when you press it. There’s no need for them to rebuild their deleted history. It’s still there (even if it’s inaccessible to the world)
  - goda90 3y ago
    What is the whole purpose of deleting it? To me it seems to be to punish Reddit, so why does it need to be off the Internet entirely?
jcz_nz 3y ago
Use a GDPR delete request, otherwise your content will resurface after a while.
- Razengan 3y ago
  How?
  - ornornor 3y ago
    Reddit has been quietly undeleting content in the last few weeks.
    - Razengan 3y ago
      How to use a "GDPR delete request"?
    - mftrhu 3y ago
      No, it hasn't. Their software is just shit, and it lets you access only the last 1k comments/posts on each view of a given collection (e.g. saved comments, posts on a given subreddit sorted by hot, your own comments sorted by new, your own comments sorted by best). It also doesn't let you touch comments/posts that you cannot access - i.e, if you post on a subreddit, and it goes private, you won't be able to see, edit, or delete any of the comments on that subreddit unless it goes public again. They just won't appear in your history. Put the two together, and it doesn't matter what kind of delete script you run: if you launch it on your /new page, it'll drop the last 1k comments, minus any comments made in subreddits that might still be private, and stop there. Older content, and content in subreddits that returned to being public after the fact, will still be around.
rococode 3y ago
What I'll miss most from BaconReader is the Android widgets, which as far as I can tell, are not available through either the official app or anything else. It was super convenient to be able to display a sub or /r/all on my phone's home pages, and I used it every day to keep up with current events or my favorite hobbies without needing to open any apps. For many years that's been a core part of how I use my phone, and I will sorely miss it :( If Reddit someday added something as nice as BaconReader's widgets to their app I might give it a shot. But looking at the design they used for their iOS app, which apparently does have a widget, I don't have high hopes for it (https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/kdycmj/introducing_reddit_widgets_on_ios/ https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/kdycmj/introduci...). Other than that, no plans to use Reddit on mobile anymore. One less bad habit, I guess.
- graftak 3y ago
  Apollo had a slew of widgets for a variety of use cases. In fact the Apollo dev was quick to jump on many of the new ios APIs and had many nifty little features that will never make it to the official app. Guess it’s all a moot point by now.

by tspike 3y ago

goda90 3y ago

Please don't delete it without adding it to the Internet archive first

sentientslug 3y ago
Putting the content somewhere else defeats the whole purpose of deleting it.
- wardedVibe 3y ago
  not really, it'd be outside the garden wall, and thus not monetizable by reddit
  - mptest 3y ago
    Can reddit issue requests to archive or whichever site is used to do it and have them taken down ? Or worse yet, rebuild their deleted history from the archives and THEN issue takedowns? I am realizing I have no serious idea how archival of digital content works legally.
    - kemayo 3y ago
      User-provided content is provided under a license between the user providing it and the site hosting it -- inherently, because otherwise the site wouldn't be allowed to do anything with it at all. Generally this takes the form of the site's ToS saying that the user gives the site a perpetual license to use the content however they want, but generally not an exclusive license. As such, and I'm not a lawyer and can't promise this is true, I suspect that reddit couldn't actually do takedowns on someone who's archiving their user-provided content. Any specific user whose content was archived without their consent could do so, however.
    - KMnO4 3y ago
      When Reddit owns the delete button, they control what happens when you press it. There’s no need for them to rebuild their deleted history. It’s still there (even if it’s inaccessible to the world)
- goda90 3y ago
  What is the whole purpose of deleting it? To me it seems to be to punish Reddit, so why does it need to be off the Internet entirely?

jcz_nz 3y ago

Use a GDPR delete request, otherwise your content will resurface after a while.

Razengan 3y ago
How?
- ornornor 3y ago
  Reddit has been quietly undeleting content in the last few weeks.
  - Razengan 3y ago
    How to use a "GDPR delete request"?
  - mftrhu 3y ago
    No, it hasn't. Their software is just shit, and it lets you access only the last 1k comments/posts on each view of a given collection (e.g. saved comments, posts on a given subreddit sorted by hot, your own comments sorted by new, your own comments sorted by best). It also doesn't let you touch comments/posts that you cannot access - i.e, if you post on a subreddit, and it goes private, you won't be able to see, edit, or delete any of the comments on that subreddit unless it goes public again. They just won't appear in your history. Put the two together, and it doesn't matter what kind of delete script you run: if you launch it on your /new page, it'll drop the last 1k comments, minus any comments made in subreddits that might still be private, and stop there. Older content, and content in subreddits that returned to being public after the fact, will still be around.

rococode 3y ago

What I'll miss most from BaconReader is the Android widgets, which as far as I can tell, are not available through either the official app or anything else. It was super convenient to be able to display a sub or /r/all on my phone's home pages, and I used it every day to keep up with current events or my favorite hobbies without needing to open any apps. For many years that's been a core part of how I use my phone, and I will sorely miss it :( If Reddit someday added something as nice as BaconReader's widgets to their app I might give it a shot. But looking at the design they used for their iOS app, which apparently does have a widget, I don't have high hopes for it (https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/kdycmj/introducing_reddit_widgets_on_ios/ https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/kdycmj/introduci...). Other than that, no plans to use Reddit on mobile anymore. One less bad habit, I guess.

graftak 3y ago
Apollo had a slew of widgets for a variety of use cases. In fact the Apollo dev was quick to jump on many of the new ios APIs and had many nifty little features that will never make it to the official app. Guess it’s all a moot point by now.