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Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now N

by jug 3y ago

Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already. You just sign up on an instance and add your communities. Done. This helped me a lot, together with sites like https://sub.rehab https://sub.rehab

hackernewds 3y ago
What is Lemmy?
- SeanAnderson 3y ago
  https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/
  - Angostura 3y ago
    see also https://kbin.pub https://kbin.pub - kbin instances interoperates with Lemmy, but I somewhat prefer the interface.
- Spivak 3y ago
  One implementation of a Reddit style interface on top of ActivityPub. It's one of the nice things about AP is that whatever interface you like best Twitter/Reddit/RSS can get you access to the same content.
  - fluidcruft 3y ago
    I'm not sure about that entirely. It seems like kbin can federate with both mastodon and lemmy. Lemmy and kbin can federate with each other. But I don't think Lemmy and mastodon can right now. I don't know if that's deliberate or just unimplemented. I will say the kbin/mastodon interactions just seem... strange. Like you see mastodon users but I don't know why I wouldn't just use a mastodon client. But I haven't spent a lot of time directly inside kbin. I prefer the lemmy interface so far. People have described it as lemmy being like old.reddit and kbin being like new.reddit in feel.
- firecall 3y ago
  Front Man for Motörhead. RIP. Is Lemmy named after Lemmy?
fluidcruft 3y ago
I really like lemmy too. I think the biggest issue is that people think of Lemmy itself as the replacement of reddit.com. But what makes more sense to me is thinking about Lemmy as a tool to build separate websites that are each a replacement for reddit.com and that these can interoperate with each other to grow based on the local users interests. I think the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first account... it's just not intuitive and of course the more established sites shut down signups during mass waves as an anti-September protective measure. I ended up starting at programming.dev because someone on HN mentioned it and it at least seemed to have a focus and also wasn't a ghost town. And that was pretty good but I've also joined beehaw (takes some time) because I like its size and decorum and generically would choose to get on their side of a defederation. And after I'm starting to understand how this whole activity pub and defederation and federation works, I really am optimistic about it. I think somebody needs to build something that's a crossover between GitHub pages and activitypub that sort of behaves like discus and integrates with Lemmy/kbin/mastodon. So that blog writers can have comments at their own sites again and they can integrate together to grow organically. I haven't quite pieced it all together, but I sort of see that could grow as a replacement for what we lost with Google Reader and the loss of blog commenting communities.
- Terr_ 3y ago
  > I think that's the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first account. Agreed. I think the barrier would be lower if I knew I could migrate my identity to another instance if the first one became sketchy or shut down or de-federated. Instead AFAICT I have to choose not just what community to join and where the content will initially live, but also which of these random groups to trust with my identity indefinitely going forward.
  - firecall 3y ago
    Maybe we need some sort of self-identifying system. Like SSH keys, where you manage your own identity and then share a public key to each instance that identifies you to that instance. Like an identity client you could self manage if you wanted to. Make it optional, portable, and transferable. So you can choose to let a server host manage your identity, or migrate to a self managed identity. If I had more time on my hands….
joeframbach 3y ago
Every keypress is a history navigation!!! What madness is this?
highwayman47 3y ago
What we had before was a low interest rate phenomenon.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Indeed, I thought HN of all places would understand that the last 15 years were a bubble of zero interest rates. Now, companies have to be profitable or die.
satvikpendem 3y ago
I like tildes much more than lemmy, to be honest.

by jug 3y ago

hackernewds 3y ago

What is Lemmy?

SeanAnderson 3y ago
https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/
- Angostura 3y ago
  see also https://kbin.pub https://kbin.pub - kbin instances interoperates with Lemmy, but I somewhat prefer the interface.
Spivak 3y ago
One implementation of a Reddit style interface on top of ActivityPub. It's one of the nice things about AP is that whatever interface you like best Twitter/Reddit/RSS can get you access to the same content.
- fluidcruft 3y ago
  I'm not sure about that entirely. It seems like kbin can federate with both mastodon and lemmy. Lemmy and kbin can federate with each other. But I don't think Lemmy and mastodon can right now. I don't know if that's deliberate or just unimplemented. I will say the kbin/mastodon interactions just seem... strange. Like you see mastodon users but I don't know why I wouldn't just use a mastodon client. But I haven't spent a lot of time directly inside kbin. I prefer the lemmy interface so far. People have described it as lemmy being like old.reddit and kbin being like new.reddit in feel.
firecall 3y ago
Front Man for Motörhead. RIP. Is Lemmy named after Lemmy?

fluidcruft 3y ago

I really like lemmy too. I think the biggest issue is that people think of Lemmy itself as the replacement of reddit.com. But what makes more sense to me is thinking about Lemmy as a tool to build separate websites that are each a replacement for reddit.com and that these can interoperate with each other to grow based on the local users interests. I think the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first account... it's just not intuitive and of course the more established sites shut down signups during mass waves as an anti-September protective measure. I ended up starting at programming.dev because someone on HN mentioned it and it at least seemed to have a focus and also wasn't a ghost town. And that was pretty good but I've also joined beehaw (takes some time) because I like its size and decorum and generically would choose to get on their side of a defederation. And after I'm starting to understand how this whole activity pub and defederation and federation works, I really am optimistic about it. I think somebody needs to build something that's a crossover between GitHub pages and activitypub that sort of behaves like discus and integrates with Lemmy/kbin/mastodon. So that blog writers can have comments at their own sites again and they can integrate together to grow organically. I haven't quite pieced it all together, but I sort of see that could grow as a replacement for what we lost with Google Reader and the loss of blog commenting communities.

Terr_ 3y ago
> I think that's the biggest hurdle is figuring out where to create your first account. Agreed. I think the barrier would be lower if I knew I could migrate my identity to another instance if the first one became sketchy or shut down or de-federated. Instead AFAICT I have to choose not just what community to join and where the content will initially live, but also which of these random groups to trust with my identity indefinitely going forward.
- firecall 3y ago
  Maybe we need some sort of self-identifying system. Like SSH keys, where you manage your own identity and then share a public key to each instance that identifies you to that instance. Like an identity client you could self manage if you wanted to. Make it optional, portable, and transferable. So you can choose to let a server host manage your identity, or migrate to a self managed identity. If I had more time on my hands….

joeframbach 3y ago

Every keypress is a history navigation!!! What madness is this?

highwayman47 3y ago

What we had before was a low interest rate phenomenon.

satvikpendem 3y ago
Indeed, I thought HN of all places would understand that the last 15 years were a bubble of zero interest rates. Now, companies have to be profitable or die.

satvikpendem 3y ago

I like tildes much more than lemmy, to be honest.