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A bad trip is a one time event, while I am assuming your negative experiences with therapy went on for more than one session? That is what I was getting at - i

A bad trip is a one time event, while I am assuming your negative experiences with therapy went on for more than one session? That is what I was getting at - if the therapy is bad, there is a chance you can get out before it gets too bad and "save yourself". Once you take the shrooms, there is no antidote, and there is no going back. No damage mitigation. Sorry either way...

crtified 3y ago
That's true. But we already have millions of people globally taking long term SSRI medication for depression - many are prescribed it with barely a thought, and little more diagnostic vigour than "oh, they said they're depressed, so here, take these pills for a year". And in my deep experience of that area, no recreational drug I ever took (which includes quite a few!), had even a shadow of the lasting, foundational changes and effects that SSRIs have. Permanent mood alteration and permanent sexual dysfunction are just two of the common outcomes. No so-called recreational trip (or series of trips) I ever had, resulted in that kind of monumental systemic effect.
- mandmandam 3y ago
  This is true. And it's really not talked about enough. And when you do talk about it, little beetles crawl out of the woodwork to tell you that ackshully, lots of people get help from SSRIs and you need to stop shaming them and scaring them. So let's never mention the suicidal ideation, the tardive dyskinesia, the massive weight gain and metabolic destruction; because the psychiatrists "believe" in the SSRIs (though we don't even have a great theory how they work, or strong data that they do). But oh, those scary mushrooms - don't you know you might have a bad trip and see stuff that isn't there; like in a dream or at a movie - oooh, spoooky.
permo-w 3y ago
simply, this isn't true. sugar is a strong antidote to psilocybin. anxiety medication will calm you down. vomiting will prevent further uptake

crtified 3y ago

That's true. But we already have millions of people globally taking long term SSRI medication for depression - many are prescribed it with barely a thought, and little more diagnostic vigour than "oh, they said they're depressed, so here, take these pills for a year". And in my deep experience of that area, no recreational drug I ever took (which includes quite a few!), had even a shadow of the lasting, foundational changes and effects that SSRIs have. Permanent mood alteration and permanent sexual dysfunction are just two of the common outcomes. No so-called recreational trip (or series of trips) I ever had, resulted in that kind of monumental systemic effect.

mandmandam 3y ago
This is true. And it's really not talked about enough. And when you do talk about it, little beetles crawl out of the woodwork to tell you that ackshully, lots of people get help from SSRIs and you need to stop shaming them and scaring them. So let's never mention the suicidal ideation, the tardive dyskinesia, the massive weight gain and metabolic destruction; because the psychiatrists "believe" in the SSRIs (though we don't even have a great theory how they work, or strong data that they do). But oh, those scary mushrooms - don't you know you might have a bad trip and see stuff that isn't there; like in a dream or at a movie - oooh, spoooky.

permo-w 3y ago

simply, this isn't true. sugar is a strong antidote to psilocybin. anxiety medication will calm you down. vomiting will prevent further uptake