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It does sound kind of misleading, but the nomenclature is correct. It's being used in the broad sense of hallucinogen (ie the drug is a dissociative, deliriant,

It does sound kind of misleading, but the nomenclature is correct. It's being used in the broad sense of hallucinogen (ie the drug is a dissociative, deliriant, or psychedelic). MDMA definitely has psychedelic effects, though less pronounced than eg MDA and much less pronounced than eg LSD.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
> definitely has psychedelic effects Does it though? In my (and friend's) experience it intensifies emotions and senses but doesn't produce anything new, nor is it so intense as to be a "deliriant". I can't help but think people are labeling this drug over broadly without controlled research, because of its illegal status.
- kranke155 3y ago
  In my experience yes it does at higher doses
  - dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
    Are you sure it was (reasonably) pure MDMA though? It tends to have a ceiling, besides the usual effects of having too much speed such as grinding teeth, rapid heartbeat and the like.
    - cdogl 3y ago
      Testing kits are procured easily. Pure MDMA does have psychedelic effects. Wikipedia says it’s a psychedelic!
      - type0 3y ago
        It's a question of definition, from pharmacological it is since it affects similar receptors as mescaline, but the effect is so mild that from users perspective it's not very mind altering.
    - kranke155 3y ago
      No certainty on its purity.
  - tanbog5 3y ago
    That's almost certainly from contamination from something else in an illegal does. The mechanism of action of mdma makes anything above normal somewhat redundant.
- tleilaxu 3y ago
  Yes, in higher doses (or lower depending on varying personal sensitivities) one can experience psychedelic visual effects. These are much more pronounced when combined with cannabis.
- Lambdanaut 3y ago
  A "deliriant" is an entirely different class of drugs to psychedelics. Very different indeed, with far more discrete hallucinations, indistinguishable from reality, like a waking dream.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago

> definitely has psychedelic effects Does it though? In my (and friend's) experience it intensifies emotions and senses but doesn't produce anything new, nor is it so intense as to be a "deliriant". I can't help but think people are labeling this drug over broadly without controlled research, because of its illegal status.

kranke155 3y ago
In my experience yes it does at higher doses
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  Are you sure it was (reasonably) pure MDMA though? It tends to have a ceiling, besides the usual effects of having too much speed such as grinding teeth, rapid heartbeat and the like.
  - cdogl 3y ago
    Testing kits are procured easily. Pure MDMA does have psychedelic effects. Wikipedia says it’s a psychedelic!
    - type0 3y ago
      It's a question of definition, from pharmacological it is since it affects similar receptors as mescaline, but the effect is so mild that from users perspective it's not very mind altering.
  - kranke155 3y ago
    No certainty on its purity.
- tanbog5 3y ago
  That's almost certainly from contamination from something else in an illegal does. The mechanism of action of mdma makes anything above normal somewhat redundant.
tleilaxu 3y ago
Yes, in higher doses (or lower depending on varying personal sensitivities) one can experience psychedelic visual effects. These are much more pronounced when combined with cannabis.
Lambdanaut 3y ago
A "deliriant" is an entirely different class of drugs to psychedelics. Very different indeed, with far more discrete hallucinations, indistinguishable from reality, like a waking dream.