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> MDMA - also known as the party drug ecstasy - is a synthetic drug that acts as a hallucinogen. This is misleading. It's 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, an
by dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
> MDMA - also known as the party drug ecstasy - is a synthetic drug that acts as a hallucinogen.
This is misleading. It's 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, an amphetamine and a stimulant. It has minor psychedelic effects and no one in their right mind would consider it a hallucinogen.
- eindiran 3y agoIt does sound kind of misleading, but the nomenclature is correct. It's being used in the broad sense of hallucinogen (ie the drug is a dissociative, deliriant, or psychedelic). MDMA definitely has psychedelic effects, though less pronounced than eg MDA and much less pronounced than eg LSD.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago> definitely has psychedelic effects Does it though? In my (and friend's) experience it intensifies emotions and senses but doesn't produce anything new, nor is it so intense as to be a "deliriant". I can't help but think people are labeling this drug over broadly without controlled research, because of its illegal status.
- kranke155 3y agoIn my experience yes it does at higher doses
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y agoAre you sure it was (reasonably) pure MDMA though? It tends to have a ceiling, besides the usual effects of having too much speed such as grinding teeth, rapid heartbeat and the like.
- cdogl 3y agoTesting kits are procured easily. Pure MDMA does have psychedelic effects. Wikipedia says it’s a psychedelic!
- type0 3y agoIt's a question of definition, from pharmacological it is since it affects similar receptors as mescaline, but the effect is so mild that from users perspective it's not very mind altering.
- kranke155 3y agoNo certainty on its purity.
- tanbog5 3y agoThat's almost certainly from contamination from something else in an illegal does. The mechanism of action of mdma makes anything above normal somewhat redundant.
- tleilaxu 3y agoYes, in higher doses (or lower depending on varying personal sensitivities) one can experience psychedelic visual effects. These are much more pronounced when combined with cannabis.
- Lambdanaut 3y agoA "deliriant" is an entirely different class of drugs to psychedelics. Very different indeed, with far more discrete hallucinations, indistinguishable from reality, like a waking dream.
- sterlind 3y agocalling MDMA an amphetamine is technically (i.e. structurally) correct but also misleading. it's structurally an amphetamine, but so are DOB, Sudafed and Wellbutrin. it's stimulating, but in a different way from regular amphetamines, because it doesn't release dopamine. the psychedelic effects are lesser than e.g. DOB, but if you look at its cousin MDA you can see it's on the spectrum of psychedelia. a better category for MDMA is "empathogen/entactogen."
- chimeracoder 3y ago> calling MDMA an amphetamine is technically (i.e. structurally) correct but also misleading. it's structurally an amphetamine, but so are DOB, Sudafed and Wellbutrin. it's stimulating, but in a different way from regular amphetamines, because it doesn't release dopamine. MDMA is more selective for serotonin, but it does release dopamine as well. Comparing it to Wellbutrin, a nonstimulant, is far more misleading. MDMA is an amphetamine, and it acts similarly (but not identically) to other amphetamines that people are familiar with.
- sterlind 3y agoI wasn't comparing MDMA's effects to Wellbutrin. I was using the example of Wellbutrin to illustrate that not all amphetamines are like amphetamine. I'm also not sure you can claim that Wellbutrin isn't a stimulant, since it's a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor.