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So reading this article I thought I would get some new data that's an ah-ha moment of yes there is an evil corporate conspiracy to pay women less for the same j

So reading this article I thought I would get some new data that's an ah-ha moment of yes there is an evil corporate conspiracy to pay women less for the same jobs. Instead what I learned was the same things that previously learned, the internships on the career path that the example in the article women are a choosing don't pay or pay less than other internships in other career paths. This isn't a gender thing, it wouldn't matter what the gender was of the person, they simply are in fields that don't pay internships. Now there is a valid debate to say if unpaid internships are right or wrong but that is not a gender pay gap debate. You cannot compare two different career paths and what they pay and then say that there's some sort of inequality. Especially since we know people choose different career paths for a wide variety of reasons and gender is an influence on which kind of career you want in your life. Not all careers are equally as financially rewarding. And honestly I don't think anyone would want to try and live in a society that tried to pay all people who work the exact same rate regardless of the actual value of the work to society.

ruffbitties 3y ago
Does a corporate conspiracy need to exist to explain a discrepancy in pay between genders? From article: > But pay inequality was even visible within the same field of study: Of the majors with the most paid internships — engineering, physical sciences, mathematics, computer science and business — only 73% of women earned pay for their internship, compared with 86% of men.
- elmerfud 3y ago
  But you see how they conveniently leave out which positions they worked for in those fields. So yes there has to be some sort of corporate conspiracy to say that the same position for a woman pays less than the same position for a man with the same experience level and the same job output. And I have never encountered any data that shows that it's real. All the data shows is that women make different choices than men because engineering and physical sciences and mathematics are all very broad with a large number of positions that fit in those categories that pay differently. And different positions appeal to different people and different personalities and we know that men and women have different personalities.
  - ruffbitties 3y ago
    Where are you getting that it must be a corporate conspiracy behind the discrepancy in pay though? People also make decisions based on preferences. Collectively those preferences play out such that we can make generalizations. That collectively people like Taylor Swift can be generalizatized that her music must be popular. That's irrespective of an artists merit for whatever that might mean to an individual.

ruffbitties 3y ago

Does a corporate conspiracy need to exist to explain a discrepancy in pay between genders? From article: > But pay inequality was even visible within the same field of study: Of the majors with the most paid internships — engineering, physical sciences, mathematics, computer science and business — only 73% of women earned pay for their internship, compared with 86% of men.

elmerfud 3y ago
But you see how they conveniently leave out which positions they worked for in those fields. So yes there has to be some sort of corporate conspiracy to say that the same position for a woman pays less than the same position for a man with the same experience level and the same job output. And I have never encountered any data that shows that it's real. All the data shows is that women make different choices than men because engineering and physical sciences and mathematics are all very broad with a large number of positions that fit in those categories that pay differently. And different positions appeal to different people and different personalities and we know that men and women have different personalities.
- ruffbitties 3y ago
  Where are you getting that it must be a corporate conspiracy behind the discrepancy in pay though? People also make decisions based on preferences. Collectively those preferences play out such that we can make generalizations. That collectively people like Taylor Swift can be generalizatized that her music must be popular. That's irrespective of an artists merit for whatever that might mean to an individual.