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Wasn't the whole cake thing that they wanted custom writing on top? As in, a plain old cake would be fine, but a cake that said "Congratulations on your wedding

Wasn't the whole cake thing that they wanted custom writing on top? As in, a plain old cake would be fine, but a cake that said "Congratulations on your wedding!" would be speech, as far as I read it. It's a good point regardless, though, and I don't envy the position of trying to draw the line between what's protected speech and what's not. Edit: it seems the cake was not requesting custom writing -- custom writing was explicitly protected as free speech in another case. It seems in the analogy of the burger joint, that case was more akin to a burger joint which only sold "I endorse your decisions" buns. Which makes me as glad as ever that I'm not in charge of being the arbiter of what's speech and what's not.

tourmalinetaco 3y ago
> Wasn't the whole cake thing that they wanted custom writing on top? I’m fairly certain it was, it was a wedding cake after all. However people love to drop details and make it worse.
- autoexec 3y ago
  Not in this case anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora... There were other lawsuits, such as a case in Ireland that involved writing though
- mcphage 3y ago
  > I’m fairly certain it was Do you have a citation for that? I've also seen reporting that there wasn't an actual couple, and to be honest: I'm having trouble figuring out what's real here.
  - tourmalinetaco 3y ago
    Unfortunately no. I think the problem is there wasn’t one single case, and its been so long I can’t remember specifics to the cases I did hear.
autoexec 3y ago
Not for the cake shop in Colorado. The couple just came in and said "we want a wedding cake for our gay wedding" and the owner refused with no other details about the cake discussed. I do however see there have been lawsuits where the writing on cake was at issue (including one in the UK where the request was to write "Support gay marriage") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora...

tourmalinetaco 3y ago

> Wasn't the whole cake thing that they wanted custom writing on top? I’m fairly certain it was, it was a wedding cake after all. However people love to drop details and make it worse.

autoexec 3y ago
Not in this case anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora... There were other lawsuits, such as a case in Ireland that involved writing though
mcphage 3y ago
> I’m fairly certain it was Do you have a citation for that? I've also seen reporting that there wasn't an actual couple, and to be honest: I'm having trouble figuring out what's real here.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  Unfortunately no. I think the problem is there wasn’t one single case, and its been so long I can’t remember specifics to the cases I did hear.

autoexec 3y ago

Not for the cake shop in Colorado. The couple just came in and said "we want a wedding cake for our gay wedding" and the owner refused with no other details about the cake discussed. I do however see there have been lawsuits where the writing on cake was at issue (including one in the UK where the request was to write "Support gay marriage") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colora...