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Ohh. Sad to hear Navy Nuke is anything other than perfect. I had a great time in the Marines. I knew the GI Bill promises were BS and the training I got would

Ohh. Sad to hear Navy Nuke is anything other than perfect. I had a great time in the Marines. I knew the GI Bill promises were BS and the training I got would not be applicable to the real world (honestly, how often do you call in fire from naval artillery in your corporate software development job.) I joined explicitly to play GI Joe for a couple years and explicitly chose a job that had me frequently out of sight of my chain of command. And I knew from family members the tradeoffs involved with making it a career. The military always had s** jobs, but if you played your cards right you could avoid them mostly. Sounds like it's harder to avoid the crap these days. Should mention I was in from 85-90 w/ a couple years of reserves. Ymmv.

halJordan 3y ago
I dont think anything you've said is wrong or isn't still a thing. But the problem is there are new problems in addition to what you described. Nukes are a good example of how the military simply does not care, is not allowed to care. The Congress will not resource problem sets. But they will increase requirements against those problems. And the military can only use coercive tactics against the individuals in the jobs. So the job is getting harder, the commanders getting meaner, and all the while your pay is inflating away as you watch (dod) civilians play on greener grass. No joke, a certain combatant command will pay civilians >200% of an servicemember's total military compensation for the exact same workrole. When SMs bring it up, like with the posted job offer as they ETS, the command accuses them of being mercenaries who chase money and don't believe in America or the mission. It's the same mission for the same employer.
wrp 3y ago
I'm afraid us older guys may not have a good sense of what military life is like today. I knew a lot of military families in the 1990s and they seemed satisfied. That contact ended for me about 20 years ago, so I don't know how things have evolved, but a quick check shows that my old friends' kids didn't join up. By the way, TFA mentioned the Marines as the only branch still meeting quotas, so maybe things are not so bad there.

halJordan 3y ago

I dont think anything you've said is wrong or isn't still a thing. But the problem is there are new problems in addition to what you described. Nukes are a good example of how the military simply does not care, is not allowed to care. The Congress will not resource problem sets. But they will increase requirements against those problems. And the military can only use coercive tactics against the individuals in the jobs. So the job is getting harder, the commanders getting meaner, and all the while your pay is inflating away as you watch (dod) civilians play on greener grass. No joke, a certain combatant command will pay civilians >200% of an servicemember's total military compensation for the exact same workrole. When SMs bring it up, like with the posted job offer as they ETS, the command accuses them of being mercenaries who chase money and don't believe in America or the mission. It's the same mission for the same employer.

wrp 3y ago

I'm afraid us older guys may not have a good sense of what military life is like today. I knew a lot of military families in the 1990s and they seemed satisfied. That contact ended for me about 20 years ago, so I don't know how things have evolved, but a quick check shows that my old friends' kids didn't join up. By the way, TFA mentioned the Marines as the only branch still meeting quotas, so maybe things are not so bad there.