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> Simpler configuration Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. > simpler administration IRC is just a ban lis

> Simpler configuration Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. > simpler administration IRC is just a ban list, an except list and an invite list. > user accounts and profile pictures by default Don't want it. > persistent chat history Liability.

Filligree 3y ago
> Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. Which destroyed several channels through spam. The authentication is a feature.
- ok123456 3y ago
  You can do authentication without something that's tantamount to someone's government ID. I love when companies make me give them my phone number, and then they get hacked.
saulrh 3y ago
> IRC is just a ban list, an except list and an invite list. Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels. Go ahead, I'll wait. Less pithily, IRC's built-in permissions may be simple, but they're so simple primarily because they're basically useless for real moderation tasks. Every IRC channel I've ever seen handles moderation with a mod-bot, and "set up a bot" instantly blows the complexity budget.
- ok123456 3y ago
  > Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels. Don't want it.
doublerabbit 3y ago
> user accounts and profile pictures by default: Don't want it. You may not, but many others do, like myself. Lets be frank, IRC is boring without content. There is no easy way to share any imagery, videos. Any form of simplification of media hosting is a tragic mess. > Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned which is my client of choice.
- progval 3y ago
  > NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". Are you sure it was prompting you to register rather than to authenticate? It sounds like you were using a nick someone else registered, but you can usually use unregistered nicks freely.
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    Some Channels enforce the flag for registered users. I've visited networks where you have forced you to register nicks. You have the option to leave, but same principle.
    - tredre3 3y ago
      Some channels do indeed enforce registered users. But the message you quoted is 100% because you were using someone's nickname and they enabled nick protection.
      - doublerabbit 3y ago
        No. My nick was an unregistered nick. I know IRC -.- don't tell me otherwise. "To use this server you MUST register with IRC services." The server had mandatory nickserv registration.
- ok123456 3y ago
  > no easy way to share any imagery. You share it the same way you share it on r*ddit. Upload it to imgur, imbb or whatever. > NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". It's telling you exactly what you need to do. If you don't like having services, don't use a server that has services. > "You can't use BitchX on this network" I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned. You're free to make your client respond however you like. > IRC is boring IRC is just a tool. If IRC is boring, it's a reflection of you and your friends.
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Filligree 3y ago

> Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. Which destroyed several channels through spam. The authentication is a feature.

ok123456 3y ago
You can do authentication without something that's tantamount to someone's government ID. I love when companies make me give them my phone number, and then they get hacked.

saulrh 3y ago

> IRC is just a ban list, an except list and an invite list. Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels. Go ahead, I'll wait. Less pithily, IRC's built-in permissions may be simple, but they're so simple primarily because they're basically useless for real moderation tasks. Every IRC channel I've ever seen handles moderation with a mod-bot, and "set up a bot" instantly blows the complexity budget.

ok123456 3y ago
> Now use that to implement RBAC for a server with a hundred channels. Don't want it.

doublerabbit 3y ago

> user accounts and profile pictures by default: Don't want it. You may not, but many others do, like myself. Lets be frank, IRC is boring without content. There is no easy way to share any imagery, videos. Any form of simplification of media hosting is a tragic mess. > Never had an IRC server want to verify me through SMS or FORCE me to update my client. NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned which is my client of choice.

progval 3y ago
> NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". Are you sure it was prompting you to register rather than to authenticate? It sounds like you were using a nick someone else registered, but you can usually use unregistered nicks freely.
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  Some Channels enforce the flag for registered users. I've visited networks where you have forced you to register nicks. You have the option to leave, but same principle.
  - tredre3 3y ago
    Some channels do indeed enforce registered users. But the message you quoted is 100% because you were using someone's nickname and they enabled nick protection.
    - doublerabbit 3y ago
      No. My nick was an unregistered nick. I know IRC -.- don't tell me otherwise. "To use this server you MUST register with IRC services." The server had mandatory nickserv registration.
ok123456 3y ago
> no easy way to share any imagery. You share it the same way you share it on r*ddit. Upload it to imgur, imbb or whatever. > NickServ. "If you don't register your nick in 1 minute you be renamed to "anonymous". It's telling you exactly what you need to do. If you don't like having services, don't use a server that has services. > "You can't use BitchX on this network" I've been on networks where mIRC has been banned. You're free to make your client respond however you like. > IRC is boring IRC is just a tool. If IRC is boring, it's a reflection of you and your friends.
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