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>If you take the stupidest human possible, or go back further down the evolutionary tree to one of our stupidest primate ancestors, it would still be able to ki

>If you take the stupidest human possible, or go back further down the evolutionary tree to one of our stupidest primate ancestors, it would still be able to kill a chicken. Sure. "A" chicken. But our ancestors didn't do that. They didn't kill 1 chicken, or 10,000 chickens. They domesticated the entire species. They kept them alive, but locked up. All of them. The analogy has already failed quite a ways back... but it still shows how you focus on the wrong things. > I'm not the kind of person that blindly takes code from ChatGPT instead of writing it themself. I You won't have to be. Someone else will be that stooge. That you're sufficiently skeptical won't save the human race. How many people send Nigerian email scammers their life savings? > The chicken wrangler using 'basic principles of psychology' is actually just resorting to pushing the chicken around, Like there won't be some "chicken wrangler" the AI can hire? How many bitcoins would it have to scrape together to pay for the hitman that would push you around?

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c_crank 3y ago
The evolutionary ancestor to chickens still exists, and there are probably some chickens here and there that have escaped and become wild again. So long as the environment allows. The evolution of chicken penning would have been gradual, as well, as human structures evolved over time and sedentary human civilization formed. Very gradual changes. >You won't have to be. Someone else will be that stooge. That you're sufficiently skeptical won't save the human race. How many people send Nigerian email scammers their life savings? Not enough to decimate the entire financial system. Some companies may outsource all their decision making to some kind of LLM. They will then face lawsuits related to quality, unless that LLM behaves in a 'friendly' enough way not to cause issues. >Like there won't be some "chicken wrangler" the AI can hire? How many bitcoins would it have to scrape together to pay for the hitman that would push you around? Criminal organizations that handle these kinds of tasks rarely take unsolicited requests in bitcoin. They like to know who is asking, and why.
- tinideiznaimnou 3y ago
  >Criminal organizations that handle these kinds of tasks rarely take unsolicited requests in bitcoin. They like to know who is asking, and why. Lone gunmen radicalized by reading words on the Internet don't even need payment. They don't even need to know which one of the 100 people they shoot up before offing themselves was the actual target. It's called "stochastic terrorism", look it up and despair. I'm half convinced we're already past that and into "stochastic genocide" territory (hi!). Assuming consciousness is just a biological function, an actor with sufficient scope is absolutely capable of breeding it out of our species. Perhaps through instituting a filter on reproduction which presents itself as a fundamental conflict of values (between sexes; between social strata; etc), but in fact simply serves to foil the perpetuation of those genes that enable the capacity for disobedience. I mean, have you seen the radical left or radical right (both of which the neoliberal end-of-history scenario supposedly rendered obsolete, before they suddenly turned up as if they had never gone away, at some point after the 2008 redistribution) actually achieve anything this century, other than, well, fuck around, beat up each other (but never a cop), shout increasingly elaborate forms of "lalala I can't hear you" at each other (over social media lol), and eventually grow up to become harmless "spicy normies"? They're one of the distractions: the familiar stimulus of "political struggle" to assist with the conditioning; the "cloth mother" of monkey attachment experiments. OTOH, none of the actually viable novel grassroots subcultures (which have a hold on youth, i.e. on humans in prime reproductive age) have an explicit goal or political manifesto. They just sorta sustain themselves, and superficially look like emergent groupings of dysfunctional people who bullshit each other and mooch off of polite society - nothing to see here. Upon closer inspection, you would notice that they all act like they're controlled from "elsewhere". That "elsewhere" is in your pocket, or on your desk, right now. You even paid money for it to be there. Ever ask yourself in whose warchest that money ended up?
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c_crank 3y ago

The evolutionary ancestor to chickens still exists, and there are probably some chickens here and there that have escaped and become wild again. So long as the environment allows. The evolution of chicken penning would have been gradual, as well, as human structures evolved over time and sedentary human civilization formed. Very gradual changes. >You won't have to be. Someone else will be that stooge. That you're sufficiently skeptical won't save the human race. How many people send Nigerian email scammers their life savings? Not enough to decimate the entire financial system. Some companies may outsource all their decision making to some kind of LLM. They will then face lawsuits related to quality, unless that LLM behaves in a 'friendly' enough way not to cause issues. >Like there won't be some "chicken wrangler" the AI can hire? How many bitcoins would it have to scrape together to pay for the hitman that would push you around? Criminal organizations that handle these kinds of tasks rarely take unsolicited requests in bitcoin. They like to know who is asking, and why.

tinideiznaimnou 3y ago
>Criminal organizations that handle these kinds of tasks rarely take unsolicited requests in bitcoin. They like to know who is asking, and why. Lone gunmen radicalized by reading words on the Internet don't even need payment. They don't even need to know which one of the 100 people they shoot up before offing themselves was the actual target. It's called "stochastic terrorism", look it up and despair. I'm half convinced we're already past that and into "stochastic genocide" territory (hi!). Assuming consciousness is just a biological function, an actor with sufficient scope is absolutely capable of breeding it out of our species. Perhaps through instituting a filter on reproduction which presents itself as a fundamental conflict of values (between sexes; between social strata; etc), but in fact simply serves to foil the perpetuation of those genes that enable the capacity for disobedience. I mean, have you seen the radical left or radical right (both of which the neoliberal end-of-history scenario supposedly rendered obsolete, before they suddenly turned up as if they had never gone away, at some point after the 2008 redistribution) actually achieve anything this century, other than, well, fuck around, beat up each other (but never a cop), shout increasingly elaborate forms of "lalala I can't hear you" at each other (over social media lol), and eventually grow up to become harmless "spicy normies"? They're one of the distractions: the familiar stimulus of "political struggle" to assist with the conditioning; the "cloth mother" of monkey attachment experiments. OTOH, none of the actually viable novel grassroots subcultures (which have a hold on youth, i.e. on humans in prime reproductive age) have an explicit goal or political manifesto. They just sorta sustain themselves, and superficially look like emergent groupings of dysfunctional people who bullshit each other and mooch off of polite society - nothing to see here. Upon closer inspection, you would notice that they all act like they're controlled from "elsewhere". That "elsewhere" is in your pocket, or on your desk, right now. You even paid money for it to be there. Ever ask yourself in whose warchest that money ended up?
- captnceinandrew 3y ago
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