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Reddit Ramps Up Its Threats to Protesting Mods, as Ad Buyers Leave

97 points by ahiknsr 3y ago

x86x87 3y ago
oh yeah. everything is going as planned! if the plan was to get rid of 3rd party apps the execution was a spectacular failure. doubling and tripling down also does not work and will backfire. reddit will slowly slip into irrelevance. let's see if the vultures can extract some value before it all goes to shift.
Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
Quit you jannies. Quit! Or just clean up the vomit like you're supposed to.
zackees 3y ago
Keep in mind that half of America can’t participate in politics and news (and others). Their views are deemed wrong think and their accounts are banned. This is effectively the type of censorship employed by communist regimes like China. This is all facilitated by the Apollo app and the 3rd party api. The amount of censorship is really depressing. Anything that disrupts this at least a little is a huge win.
- tizio13 3y ago
  This is a gross mischaracterization of what actually happened. That “half” is actually a small amount of users that spewed hate and threatened people left and right if they didn’t share their views. They got banned for their actions. This had nothing to do with Apps or APIs.
  - zackees 3y ago
    [flagged]
downrightmike 3y ago
Good that's the only way they'll learn not to be a jerk.
- commandlinefan 3y ago
  > not to be a jerk Who, the mods or the advertisers?
  - dbg31415 3y ago
    The CEO is aggressively dishonest. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-private-apollo-christian-selig-subreddit https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-p... https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_t...
    - deleted 3y ago
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jeffrallen 3y ago
Why are we still taking about Reddit and Twitter? They are damage to be routed around.
- aomix 3y ago
  Finding things on the internet can be really hard without reddit. SEO spam has gotten really good at making Google searches useless unless you add “reddit” on the end. Then it’s exactly what you need.
  - totalconfusion 3y ago
    This is so real. Google's core functionality has become a victim of its own success and is now borderline unusable. No exaggeration 80-90% of my searches have reddit affixed to the end. SEO is the devil and page ranks utility died many years ago.
    - dekarrin 3y ago
      Yeah, it's gotten so bad that I'm starting to seriously contemplate rolling my own web crawler and indexer. The logical side of me says that's going to be way too much work to manage on my own. But it's hard to shut down the nagging feeling that pops up every time Google chooses to disregard a "+" or double-quotes around a word. That feeling of "would it really be that hard to toss a bunch of site data into an ELK stack and implement a primitive PageRank-ish score on sites? Hmmmm..." Maybe just a YouTube indexer (whose search has also gone to complete garbage these last few years). Though, that would have the disadvantage of not being justifiable via eventually helping to make me more productive.
      - toomuchtodo 3y ago
        Crawl the internet archive Wayback machine slowly. Once you have built your index, you can fill your corpus gaps with public crawls. Patron services can advise to be helpful without causing stress on their infra.
      - 3y ago
gigel82 3y ago
Today will be the last day for me on Reddit (since I use it exclusively through Apollo); I mean, I may stumble upon it through Google searches on desktop every now and then, but I have no intention of installing their app on my phone. I hope Reddit dies, they deserve to - also hope the communities find a consensus on an alternative to move to.
whateveracct 3y ago
Mods should just quit. It's not a strike if you don't actually walk away.
tapoxi 3y ago
I've been using Boost for a while now and decided that I'd give the actual client a shot. I mean I've been using Reddit since 2006 and old habits die hard. I did not expect it to be so awful. Scrolling is actually sluggish for some reason, even when just reading comments, not to mention I keep getting garbage like posts from recommended subreddits and constant prompts to enable notifications. There's also NFTs?!?! I'm done, it has reached peak shittification.
- tnecniv 3y ago
  Instead of giving users features they want, we got NFTs, profile pictures, and 3 separate chat implementations…
meepmorp 3y ago
I definitely spent too much time scrolling through Reddit before a couple weeks ago, but I stopped cold when the protest started. Honestly, I think it's better for my mood generally and I wouldn't go back. Thanks for looking out for me, spez.
- tiltowait 3y ago
  I've long known that reddit isn't good for my mood. Even though I unsubbed from all default subs and joined niche hobby subs, reddit is still frequently poison, especially with politics (and more importantly, low-effort political "takes") just infecting the least-relevant places. This whole debacle has been the impetus I needed. I'll let myself read reddit links surfaced by my search engine (because that's ostensibly useful, not mindless scrolling), but I haven't felt any urge to casually browse at all.
- noncoml 3y ago
  I was mostly watching cats/pets, and funny and interesting videos/photos/memes. It was great for time pass and didn’t affect my mood at all. If you start going into politics and the discussions around them, you will definitely get affected. But it’s not the platform, it’s how you use it. Anyway, I’ll definitely miss it as I refuse to switch from Apollo to the native app. It sucks.
- tl_donson 3y ago
  same. i also did this with twitter when elon took over. i haven’t been tempted at all to log in to either despite spending probably the majority of my time online between the two for years. and it’s weirdly fine.
- isk517 3y ago
  About 6 months ago I made the decision to stop browsing r/All and only go to specific Reddit communities that match my interest. The protest has been a excellent opportunity to just completely cut Reddit out of my life.
  - rockbruno 3y ago

97 points by ahiknsr 3y ago

oh yeah. everything is going as planned! if the plan was to get rid of 3rd party apps the execution was a spectacular failure. doubling and tripling down also does not work and will backfire. reddit will slowly slip into irrelevance. let's see if the vultures can extract some value before it all goes to shift.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago

Quit you jannies. Quit! Or just clean up the vomit like you're supposed to.

zackees 3y ago

Keep in mind that half of America can’t participate in politics and news (and others). Their views are deemed wrong think and their accounts are banned. This is effectively the type of censorship employed by communist regimes like China. This is all facilitated by the Apollo app and the 3rd party api. The amount of censorship is really depressing. Anything that disrupts this at least a little is a huge win.

tizio13 3y ago
This is a gross mischaracterization of what actually happened. That “half” is actually a small amount of users that spewed hate and threatened people left and right if they didn’t share their views. They got banned for their actions. This had nothing to do with Apps or APIs.
- zackees 3y ago
  [flagged]

downrightmike 3y ago

Good that's the only way they'll learn not to be a jerk.

commandlinefan 3y ago
> not to be a jerk Who, the mods or the advertisers?
- dbg31415 3y ago
  The CEO is aggressively dishonest. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-private-apollo-christian-selig-subreddit https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759180/reddit-protest-p... https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_t...
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]

jeffrallen 3y ago

Why are we still taking about Reddit and Twitter? They are damage to be routed around.

aomix 3y ago
Finding things on the internet can be really hard without reddit. SEO spam has gotten really good at making Google searches useless unless you add “reddit” on the end. Then it’s exactly what you need.
- totalconfusion 3y ago
  This is so real. Google's core functionality has become a victim of its own success and is now borderline unusable. No exaggeration 80-90% of my searches have reddit affixed to the end. SEO is the devil and page ranks utility died many years ago.
  - dekarrin 3y ago
    Yeah, it's gotten so bad that I'm starting to seriously contemplate rolling my own web crawler and indexer. The logical side of me says that's going to be way too much work to manage on my own. But it's hard to shut down the nagging feeling that pops up every time Google chooses to disregard a "+" or double-quotes around a word. That feeling of "would it really be that hard to toss a bunch of site data into an ELK stack and implement a primitive PageRank-ish score on sites? Hmmmm..." Maybe just a YouTube indexer (whose search has also gone to complete garbage these last few years). Though, that would have the disadvantage of not being justifiable via eventually helping to make me more productive.
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Crawl the internet archive Wayback machine slowly. Once you have built your index, you can fill your corpus gaps with public crawls. Patron services can advise to be helpful without causing stress on their infra.
    - 3y ago

gigel82 3y ago

Today will be the last day for me on Reddit (since I use it exclusively through Apollo); I mean, I may stumble upon it through Google searches on desktop every now and then, but I have no intention of installing their app on my phone. I hope Reddit dies, they deserve to - also hope the communities find a consensus on an alternative to move to.

whateveracct 3y ago

Mods should just quit. It's not a strike if you don't actually walk away.

tapoxi 3y ago

I've been using Boost for a while now and decided that I'd give the actual client a shot. I mean I've been using Reddit since 2006 and old habits die hard. I did not expect it to be so awful. Scrolling is actually sluggish for some reason, even when just reading comments, not to mention I keep getting garbage like posts from recommended subreddits and constant prompts to enable notifications. There's also NFTs?!?! I'm done, it has reached peak shittification.

tnecniv 3y ago
Instead of giving users features they want, we got NFTs, profile pictures, and 3 separate chat implementations…

meepmorp 3y ago

I definitely spent too much time scrolling through Reddit before a couple weeks ago, but I stopped cold when the protest started. Honestly, I think it's better for my mood generally and I wouldn't go back. Thanks for looking out for me, spez.

tiltowait 3y ago
I've long known that reddit isn't good for my mood. Even though I unsubbed from all default subs and joined niche hobby subs, reddit is still frequently poison, especially with politics (and more importantly, low-effort political "takes") just infecting the least-relevant places. This whole debacle has been the impetus I needed. I'll let myself read reddit links surfaced by my search engine (because that's ostensibly useful, not mindless scrolling), but I haven't felt any urge to casually browse at all.
noncoml 3y ago
I was mostly watching cats/pets, and funny and interesting videos/photos/memes. It was great for time pass and didn’t affect my mood at all. If you start going into politics and the discussions around them, you will definitely get affected. But it’s not the platform, it’s how you use it. Anyway, I’ll definitely miss it as I refuse to switch from Apollo to the native app. It sucks.
tl_donson 3y ago
same. i also did this with twitter when elon took over. i haven’t been tempted at all to log in to either despite spending probably the majority of my time online between the two for years. and it’s weirdly fine.
isk517 3y ago
About 6 months ago I made the decision to stop browsing r/All and only go to specific Reddit communities that match my interest. The protest has been a excellent opportunity to just completely cut Reddit out of my life.
- rockbruno 3y ago