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These discussions have never been about fairness, it’s about special interest groups getting what they want. Believe it or not, but American universities have
by endisneigh 3y ago
These discussions have never been about fairness, it’s about special interest groups getting what they want.
Believe it or not, but American universities have never been about simply taking the highest scorers. They want their graduates to be among the elite in all areas, which inherently requires representation from all relevant backgrounds.
If you want elite artists it doesn’t serve that interest necessarily to pick a mediocre artist with a perfect SAT vs award winning high school artist with mediocre grades.
- Timon3 3y ago> These discussions have never been about fairness, it’s about special interest groups getting what they want. Ascribing intentions to everyone who takes your opposite point isn't an honest way to discuss things. There are many, many people who care about fairness, not about special interest groups getting what they want.
- endisneigh 3y agoEmphasizing scores is not inherently more fair than a holistic approach. The process is inherently opinionated.
- Timon3 3y agoI fully agree! I am for a holistic approach because I want fairness.
- TremendousJudge 3y agoAll interest groups will argue that whay they want is "fair". There is no impartial group "outside" the system with an objective fair view, and this includes the supreme court. The discussions will never be about fairness, because there's no such thing.
- endisneigh 3y agoExactly. No score had a deterministic admissions process to begin with.
- Timon3 3y agoSo we can't look at the statistical distributions of students and the entire population to see whether individual groups have statistically significant advantages? Why not? Even if we can't get to 100% fairness, we can move away a bit from unfairness.
- lozenge 3y agoActually, Harvard was about taking the highest scorers until the growing number of Jewish students at Harvard would “ruin the college.”, according to its president. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_and_antisemitism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_and_antisemitis...
- endisneigh 3y agoThough I personally disagree with their opinion then private schools are free to do as they like. Wellesley college for example does not take men at all, half the population.