This. Great hardware, probably good software in most cases, but rather toxic elitist culture that you can't discuss with reasonably. And lies, so many lies, not

This. Great hardware, probably good software in most cases, but rather toxic elitist culture that you can't discuss with reasonably. And lies, so many lies, not worse than other manufacturers but they don't try to act like saviors of universe/privacy/whatnot, which they aren't if you actually follow things a bit.