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Much more effective than being the USA and having to do without because you can't pay.

by jackmott42 3y ago

blitz_skull 3y ago
Who is "having to do without" because they can't pay? In the US you can't be refused life-saving healthcare.
- masfuerte 3y ago
  Emergency treatment, sure. Something that will kill you in a year, not so much.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 3y ago
  Right, which means perfectly preventable problems just plague you until they become catastrophic enough that they require life-saving care. The bare minimum of course.
- dylan604 3y ago
  You can't be refused, but you can still be billed, and billed you will be.
- analognoise 3y ago
  A country where people die because they ration things like insulin, with a life expectancy a decade lower than Europe, an infant mortality rate higher than Cuba, and the largest amount of bankruptcies over medical debt... You can absolutely be refused care until you die in the USA. Sure at the very end if you stumble to a hospital they'll put on a good show as they find out you're uninsured and you didn't take an ambulance because it was on average thousands of dollars, and you didn't go to a doctor because you knew you couldn't afford it... People die here all the time from lack of care. Our systems suck and are way broken.
  - UtopiaPunk 3y ago
    Just as an aside, Cuba's healthcare system kind of rules, especially given their place in the world. It's so good they practically have a surplus they use in trade. Like, they'll send doctors or medicines to other third world countries the US hates or ignores in exchange for oil or whatever. People tout how amazing it was USA could make covid vaccines so quickly, but Cuba did that too (while under trade embargos from the USA). It's impressive.
- jjav 3y ago
  > Who is "having to do without" because they can't pay? A very large segment of the poor and even middle class in the US who work jobs that don't provide insurance. > In the US you can't be refused life-saving healthcare. You're probably thinking of emergency room care for immediately life-threatening accidents. For those yes, the emergency room is required to stabilize you in the short term. You'll be billed for it of course, causing bankrupcy if you had any money. But if you have advanced diabetes or cancer or any other life-ending conditions that aren't going to kill you right now, you will not get any treatment in the US if you can't pay for it so you can be left to die. Some states are better than others with options for the poor, but many are atrocious.

Much more effective than being the USA and having to do without because you can't pay.

blitz_skull 3y ago

Who is "having to do without" because they can't pay? In the US you can't be refused life-saving healthcare.

masfuerte 3y ago
Emergency treatment, sure. Something that will kill you in a year, not so much.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 3y ago
Right, which means perfectly preventable problems just plague you until they become catastrophic enough that they require life-saving care. The bare minimum of course.
dylan604 3y ago
You can't be refused, but you can still be billed, and billed you will be.
analognoise 3y ago
A country where people die because they ration things like insulin, with a life expectancy a decade lower than Europe, an infant mortality rate higher than Cuba, and the largest amount of bankruptcies over medical debt... You can absolutely be refused care until you die in the USA. Sure at the very end if you stumble to a hospital they'll put on a good show as they find out you're uninsured and you didn't take an ambulance because it was on average thousands of dollars, and you didn't go to a doctor because you knew you couldn't afford it... People die here all the time from lack of care. Our systems suck and are way broken.
- UtopiaPunk 3y ago
  Just as an aside, Cuba's healthcare system kind of rules, especially given their place in the world. It's so good they practically have a surplus they use in trade. Like, they'll send doctors or medicines to other third world countries the US hates or ignores in exchange for oil or whatever. People tout how amazing it was USA could make covid vaccines so quickly, but Cuba did that too (while under trade embargos from the USA). It's impressive.
jjav 3y ago
> Who is "having to do without" because they can't pay? A very large segment of the poor and even middle class in the US who work jobs that don't provide insurance. > In the US you can't be refused life-saving healthcare. You're probably thinking of emergency room care for immediately life-threatening accidents. For those yes, the emergency room is required to stabilize you in the short term. You'll be billed for it of course, causing bankrupcy if you had any money. But if you have advanced diabetes or cancer or any other life-ending conditions that aren't going to kill you right now, you will not get any treatment in the US if you can't pay for it so you can be left to die. Some states are better than others with options for the poor, but many are atrocious.