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You can hardly characterize fastmail this way. They've been extremely stable in the years that I've been using them. In fact this is the first time I remember s

by injb 3y ago

You can hardly characterize fastmail this way. They've been extremely stable in the years that I've been using them. In fact this is the first time I remember seeing a mention of fastmail on HN that wasn't praise.

moffkalast 3y ago
Well aside from literally their name of course.
- queuebert 3y ago
  Fast UI != Fast Development
- dylan604 3y ago
  Still faster than Pony Express, so it's not that far off
justsomehnguy 3y ago
You should explicitly cancel the reseller accounts, because if you don't then it wouldn't lapse, despite it was explicitly set not to draw from the main account. Their mobile app is just a wrapper around their site, it does have no offline capabilities. Their mobile app requires GApps to receive notifications, because Firebase. Ie no notifications on de-googled phones. They would silently kill your account if their automated gearhead would think you are sending anything remotely resembling automated messages (that was a big ouch). (too lazy to check if this is still a thing, with fronted mails they could had fixed it) You still can get an original mailbox name if you are sending from an identity of that mailbox. Yes, they are rarely down, your support questions would be answered by a real humans (though not at your convienient time, so expect days to solve issues; probably should had added that into the list) but if you use it a bit more than a personal (or a business individual) account you are on the shallow grounds.
- cuu508 3y ago
  > but if you use it a bit more than a personal (or a business individual) account you are on the shallow grounds What do you mean by "a bit more"? Do you mean using them as a SMTP relay? Having many email addresses and users under one account? Sending a lot of handwritten emails? Or something else?
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    > Do you mean using them as a SMTP relay? They are fine being (an authenticated) SMTP relay. > Having many email addresses and users under one account? I do have only one account, with many domains and addresses. > Sending a lot of handwritten emails? Opposite of this. I was just testing the exact SMTP configuration for Ghost and then suddenly not only it stopped working but the account were ghosted. If I did that on my main account then I would had lost all my mail.
    - cuu508 3y ago
      From https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000277382-Account-limits#sending https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000277382-Ac...: > Note: Fastmail is not a bulk email sending service. Our rate limits are designed to be generous for individual users, but not for bulk sending. Our Terms of Service prohibits sending duplicative email, and we will permanently close accounts found doing so.
      - justsomehnguy 3y ago
        Oh, yes, thanks, I didn't know I could send 5 emails (manually, I was testing a new thing) and be blocked without explanation, notification or a way to recourse. Oh, yes, I read it way before this conversation. Oh, yes, water is wet, what's next?

by injb 3y ago

moffkalast 3y ago

Well aside from literally their name of course.

queuebert 3y ago
Fast UI != Fast Development
dylan604 3y ago
Still faster than Pony Express, so it's not that far off

justsomehnguy 3y ago

You should explicitly cancel the reseller accounts, because if you don't then it wouldn't lapse, despite it was explicitly set not to draw from the main account. Their mobile app is just a wrapper around their site, it does have no offline capabilities. Their mobile app requires GApps to receive notifications, because Firebase. Ie no notifications on de-googled phones. They would silently kill your account if their automated gearhead would think you are sending anything remotely resembling automated messages (that was a big ouch). (too lazy to check if this is still a thing, with fronted mails they could had fixed it) You still can get an original mailbox name if you are sending from an identity of that mailbox. Yes, they are rarely down, your support questions would be answered by a real humans (though not at your convienient time, so expect days to solve issues; probably should had added that into the list) but if you use it a bit more than a personal (or a business individual) account you are on the shallow grounds.

cuu508 3y ago
> but if you use it a bit more than a personal (or a business individual) account you are on the shallow grounds What do you mean by "a bit more"? Do you mean using them as a SMTP relay? Having many email addresses and users under one account? Sending a lot of handwritten emails? Or something else?
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  > Do you mean using them as a SMTP relay? They are fine being (an authenticated) SMTP relay. > Having many email addresses and users under one account? I do have only one account, with many domains and addresses. > Sending a lot of handwritten emails? Opposite of this. I was just testing the exact SMTP configuration for Ghost and then suddenly not only it stopped working but the account were ghosted. If I did that on my main account then I would had lost all my mail.
  - cuu508 3y ago
    From https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000277382-Account-limits#sending https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000277382-Ac...: > Note: Fastmail is not a bulk email sending service. Our rate limits are designed to be generous for individual users, but not for bulk sending. Our Terms of Service prohibits sending duplicative email, and we will permanently close accounts found doing so.
    - justsomehnguy 3y ago
      Oh, yes, thanks, I didn't know I could send 5 emails (manually, I was testing a new thing) and be blocked without explanation, notification or a way to recourse. Oh, yes, I read it way before this conversation. Oh, yes, water is wet, what's next?