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> I think it ended up being a little dramatic, but I agree that the iPad being as shackled as its been has been a net negative for computing. ...well the war o

> I think it ended up being a little dramatic, but I agree that the iPad being as shackled as its been has been a net negative for computing. ...well the war on general purpose computing is on, so, unfortunately, the iOS/Android model is "the future". It won't be long until macOS and Windows are just as shackled. Things are definitely moving in that direction right now.

manmal 3y ago
The moment macOS is shackled any more, I'll move to Linux. And I suspect I'm not alone in this, and that Apple knows.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  I keep reading that every time Microsoft pushes something some folks don't like, yet Year of Linux Desktop has become a meme.
  - manmal 3y ago
    macOS has no exclusive apps that I use, while most of the games I‘m interested in and lots of exotic inhouse tools only work on Windows.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  This was what I swore to myself when Mojave released. I left during the Catalina beta.
- bamfly 3y ago
  Mainly DOS/Windows user from ~1992-2000. Mainly Linux 2000-2011. Mac since. > The moment macOS is shackled any more I hadn't really noticed it being "shackled" at all. What do you mean?
  - ndiddy 3y ago
    If you don’t have an Apple developer account and you give a program you wrote to someone else, their computer will refuse to open it unless they go into System Preferences and whitelist the program.
    - Our_Benefactors 3y ago
      This is intentionally misleading. Running any unsigned package requires the end user to open the program through system preferences for the first time, as a “did you really mean to run this potentially pwning software”. It’s a good security practice, and less intrusive than windows UAC by far.
      - ndiddy 3y ago
        With Windows UAC, when you run a program it opens a pop-up saying "do you want to run this program" and you can click "yes" to continue. With a Mac, if you run an unsigned program it opens a pop-up saying "program cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified" and your options are "Move to Trash" or "Cancel". It doesn't mention anything about letting you open the program anyway. This means that if you want to develop software targeted at anyone who doesn't know to go to the security section in System Preferences when they're not prompted to do so, you have to pony up $100 for a developer license. A lot of open-source projects don't offer Mac builds for this reason, and you have to build from source instead.
scarface_74 3y ago
And people have been saying the sky is falling and Apple will force all Mac apps to go through the App Store since 2011.

manmal 3y ago

The moment macOS is shackled any more, I'll move to Linux. And I suspect I'm not alone in this, and that Apple knows.

pjmlp 3y ago
I keep reading that every time Microsoft pushes something some folks don't like, yet Year of Linux Desktop has become a meme.
- manmal 3y ago
  macOS has no exclusive apps that I use, while most of the games I‘m interested in and lots of exotic inhouse tools only work on Windows.
smoldesu 3y ago
This was what I swore to myself when Mojave released. I left during the Catalina beta.
bamfly 3y ago
Mainly DOS/Windows user from ~1992-2000. Mainly Linux 2000-2011. Mac since. > The moment macOS is shackled any more I hadn't really noticed it being "shackled" at all. What do you mean?
- ndiddy 3y ago
  If you don’t have an Apple developer account and you give a program you wrote to someone else, their computer will refuse to open it unless they go into System Preferences and whitelist the program.
  - Our_Benefactors 3y ago
    This is intentionally misleading. Running any unsigned package requires the end user to open the program through system preferences for the first time, as a “did you really mean to run this potentially pwning software”. It’s a good security practice, and less intrusive than windows UAC by far.
    - ndiddy 3y ago
      With Windows UAC, when you run a program it opens a pop-up saying "do you want to run this program" and you can click "yes" to continue. With a Mac, if you run an unsigned program it opens a pop-up saying "program cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified" and your options are "Move to Trash" or "Cancel". It doesn't mention anything about letting you open the program anyway. This means that if you want to develop software targeted at anyone who doesn't know to go to the security section in System Preferences when they're not prompted to do so, you have to pony up $100 for a developer license. A lot of open-source projects don't offer Mac builds for this reason, and you have to build from source instead.

scarface_74 3y ago

And people have been saying the sky is falling and Apple will force all Mac apps to go through the App Store since 2011.