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I don't really see the problem as anybody can use an open source browser compiled without those, assuming there is any kind of benefit to access those blocked d

I don't really see the problem as anybody can use an open source browser compiled without those, assuming there is any kind of benefit to access those blocked domains, which is doubtful. The general population will not use such custom-compiled browsers, which fulfills the aim of security without having to threat user with any kind of punishment.

idiotsecant 3y ago
The natural next step is outlawing dangerous extremist browsers that fail to implement The List. Is there some reason you don't want to protect children and fight terrorism? What do you have to hide?!?
- henearkr 3y ago
  I don't think, and I hope not, that it is a natural step. Imho the law is design to prevent unaware users to harm themselves.
Etheryte 3y ago
It's a complete misnomer to try and frame this as a security issue, it's not about security, it's censorship. The government has no business saying what websites you can read just as the government has no business saying which books you can read or which newspapers.
- hulitu 3y ago
  > The government has no business saying what websites you can read just as the government has no business saying which books you can read or which newspapers. This is, unfortunately, not true since some years.
  - martin8412 3y ago
    That was never true.
  - chrisco255 3y ago
    No, it's been true since forever and will remain true forever. If your government doesn't respect this right, it's time to get a new government.
    - zarzavat 3y ago
      Every government has its own special set of things that, for better or worse, it tries to wipe from the internet. 1. In the US it’s prostitution, copyright infringement, DRM circumvention, etc 2. In the UK it’s any “offensive” joke 3. In Germany it’s anything glorifying Nazism 4. In Russia it’s mentioning the War 5. In Thailand it’s Lese Majeste: anything said against the King 6. In Pakistan it’s blasphemy 7. In China it’s everything 8. In a large number of countries it’s anything that threatens the regime Which country on Earth has free speech?
      - chrisco255 3y ago
        United States has freedom of speech as a constitutionally protected right. Prostitution is a commercial service within the realm of government regulation. Copyright laws are a mixed bag of nice and terrible, but it's still more than possible to express an idea derived from copyright material in a different way without verbotem duplication.
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- henearkr 3y ago
  Yet people will still have access to these websites if they want, so it makes more sense to have been designed to prevent accidental, unwilling, or unaware access.
boredumb 3y ago
poorly done sarcasm went here
- henearkr 3y ago
  Not at all. Any browser can access any part of the internet that is not blocked by the broader internet infrastructure. You just use IP addresses and that's it.
  - rascul 3y ago
    > You just use IP addresses and that's it. Not quite that simple. Many web sites can't be reached by just typing the IP into the URL bar

idiotsecant 3y ago

The natural next step is outlawing dangerous extremist browsers that fail to implement The List. Is there some reason you don't want to protect children and fight terrorism? What do you have to hide?!?

henearkr 3y ago
I don't think, and I hope not, that it is a natural step. Imho the law is design to prevent unaware users to harm themselves.

Etheryte 3y ago

It's a complete misnomer to try and frame this as a security issue, it's not about security, it's censorship. The government has no business saying what websites you can read just as the government has no business saying which books you can read or which newspapers.

hulitu 3y ago
> The government has no business saying what websites you can read just as the government has no business saying which books you can read or which newspapers. This is, unfortunately, not true since some years.
- martin8412 3y ago
  That was never true.
- chrisco255 3y ago
  No, it's been true since forever and will remain true forever. If your government doesn't respect this right, it's time to get a new government.
  - zarzavat 3y ago
    Every government has its own special set of things that, for better or worse, it tries to wipe from the internet. 1. In the US it’s prostitution, copyright infringement, DRM circumvention, etc 2. In the UK it’s any “offensive” joke 3. In Germany it’s anything glorifying Nazism 4. In Russia it’s mentioning the War 5. In Thailand it’s Lese Majeste: anything said against the King 6. In Pakistan it’s blasphemy 7. In China it’s everything 8. In a large number of countries it’s anything that threatens the regime Which country on Earth has free speech?
    - chrisco255 3y ago
      United States has freedom of speech as a constitutionally protected right. Prostitution is a commercial service within the realm of government regulation. Copyright laws are a mixed bag of nice and terrible, but it's still more than possible to express an idea derived from copyright material in a different way without verbotem duplication.
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henearkr 3y ago
Yet people will still have access to these websites if they want, so it makes more sense to have been designed to prevent accidental, unwilling, or unaware access.

boredumb 3y ago

poorly done sarcasm went here

henearkr 3y ago
Not at all. Any browser can access any part of the internet that is not blocked by the broader internet infrastructure. You just use IP addresses and that's it.
- rascul 3y ago
  > You just use IP addresses and that's it. Not quite that simple. Many web sites can't be reached by just typing the IP into the URL bar