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God I hope your wish never comes true. I don't understand why a device can't just be for consumption of media. Why is everyone trying to force this to become a

God I hope your wish never comes true. I don't understand why a device can't just be for consumption of media. Why is everyone trying to force this to become a computer with an annoyingly complicated navigation UX and the rest of the ceaveats when using a complete OS. If I ever have to worry about CPU usage or driver issues on my iPad I will be the one leaving. I bought an iPad NOT to work on it. It is my vacation device so work can never call me and ask me to do something quickly

nicbou 3y ago
I owned a Surface Go for two days before getting an iPad Mini. What made me return it was the file save dialog. I bought a device to read and doodle on, two things I used to do on paper. I browse through my sketches by turning pages, and finish the activity by closing the (note)book. Procreate and Google Play Books work similarly. After a whole day of installing updates and removing bloatware, the Surface wanted me to name and organise my drawings on a filesystem before I could do something else. My goal was to draw and read, not to use a computer. The Surface wanted me to think about files and updates and the device’s state. My iPad Mini is a book with benefits, paper with tricks.
- fomine3 3y ago
  What app did you tried on Surface? OneNote works without treating files. (as it's also available on iPad)
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    Yeah, I'm curious too. If you use a desktop Windows app you will of course run into that kind of thing but there is apps like Sketchable available that are like what's on the iPad. Even on the iPad you can run into file save dialogs, from what I remember Clip Studio Paint on the iPad is for better or worse Clip Studio Paint on the iPad file save dialogs and all.
  - nicbou 3y ago
    I tried a few. OneNote was good for notes but not for art. None of them felt as good as their iPad counterparts, plus I had to deal with Windows.
hindsightbias 3y ago
They could just buy a tablet based on a real operating system like android /s
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Is there one that exists that has 12 hour battery life and not parts of the interface that still goes back to a desktop OS released in 1995?
wiseowise 3y ago
It’s called iPad PRO, if you want media consumption device iPad will do just fine.
- skydhash 3y ago
  Pro in Apple world means more powerful hardware + extra niceties. Not a different ecosystem.
- bamfly 3y ago
  12.9" pro's the best comic book reading device on the market, by a mile, AFAIK. Comfortable to hold, can display two-page spreads at very nearly full life-size. It's great for PDFs and sheet music for similar reasons. Gotta admit, though, if they made a 12.9" non-pro at least $200 cheaper than the 12.9" Pro, I'd have that instead. I don't need the horsepower.
  - diffeomorphism 3y ago
    If it is only "very nearly", wouldn't something larger like an s8 ultra be better? Also "by a mile" is a stretch. It might be better but all $1000+ tablets are reasonably close enough to be happy with any of them.
    - bamfly 3y ago
      I've used a lot of Android tablets, low end to high, and developed software for them. They're awful. Crashy, glitchy, bad battery life. I don't think we'll see a true iPad competitor until/unless a new OS enters the market—Android's had a long time to get its shit together, and evidently just can't. Wish someone would give it a shot, because I'd love to see that market better-served.
      - diffeomorphism 3y ago
        Yeah, yeah and you literally died. This is HN and not reddit, you are better than that.
makeitdouble 3y ago
Because Apple doesn't allow macs to take that form factor. There is a gap between iPads' convenience and macs' capabilities, we've all been pondering about when and how this gap will be filled, and it doesn't feel like it will ever happen. Basically what is Apple's equivalent of a Surface Pro ? Until that question has an answer, some will be ranting about iPad OS being too restrictive and others lament the mac not getting touch support.
Lio 3y ago
Not that I disagree with your use-case at all, it seems perfectly valid but… I’ve owned Macs since 2006 and have never had to worry about driver issues once. Come to think of it, I don’t really worry about the CPU either since M1. iPads are not for me but I’m happy that they’re for someone else.

nicbou 3y ago

I owned a Surface Go for two days before getting an iPad Mini. What made me return it was the file save dialog. I bought a device to read and doodle on, two things I used to do on paper. I browse through my sketches by turning pages, and finish the activity by closing the (note)book. Procreate and Google Play Books work similarly. After a whole day of installing updates and removing bloatware, the Surface wanted me to name and organise my drawings on a filesystem before I could do something else. My goal was to draw and read, not to use a computer. The Surface wanted me to think about files and updates and the device’s state. My iPad Mini is a book with benefits, paper with tricks.

fomine3 3y ago
What app did you tried on Surface? OneNote works without treating files. (as it's also available on iPad)
- goosedragons 3y ago
  Yeah, I'm curious too. If you use a desktop Windows app you will of course run into that kind of thing but there is apps like Sketchable available that are like what's on the iPad. Even on the iPad you can run into file save dialogs, from what I remember Clip Studio Paint on the iPad is for better or worse Clip Studio Paint on the iPad file save dialogs and all.
- nicbou 3y ago
  I tried a few. OneNote was good for notes but not for art. None of them felt as good as their iPad counterparts, plus I had to deal with Windows.

hindsightbias 3y ago

They could just buy a tablet based on a real operating system like android /s

scarface_74 3y ago
Is there one that exists that has 12 hour battery life and not parts of the interface that still goes back to a desktop OS released in 1995?

wiseowise 3y ago

It’s called iPad PRO, if you want media consumption device iPad will do just fine.

skydhash 3y ago
Pro in Apple world means more powerful hardware + extra niceties. Not a different ecosystem.
bamfly 3y ago
12.9" pro's the best comic book reading device on the market, by a mile, AFAIK. Comfortable to hold, can display two-page spreads at very nearly full life-size. It's great for PDFs and sheet music for similar reasons. Gotta admit, though, if they made a 12.9" non-pro at least $200 cheaper than the 12.9" Pro, I'd have that instead. I don't need the horsepower.
- diffeomorphism 3y ago
  If it is only "very nearly", wouldn't something larger like an s8 ultra be better? Also "by a mile" is a stretch. It might be better but all $1000+ tablets are reasonably close enough to be happy with any of them.
  - bamfly 3y ago
    I've used a lot of Android tablets, low end to high, and developed software for them. They're awful. Crashy, glitchy, bad battery life. I don't think we'll see a true iPad competitor until/unless a new OS enters the market—Android's had a long time to get its shit together, and evidently just can't. Wish someone would give it a shot, because I'd love to see that market better-served.
    - diffeomorphism 3y ago
      Yeah, yeah and you literally died. This is HN and not reddit, you are better than that.

makeitdouble 3y ago

Because Apple doesn't allow macs to take that form factor. There is a gap between iPads' convenience and macs' capabilities, we've all been pondering about when and how this gap will be filled, and it doesn't feel like it will ever happen. Basically what is Apple's equivalent of a Surface Pro ? Until that question has an answer, some will be ranting about iPad OS being too restrictive and others lament the mac not getting touch support.

Lio 3y ago

Not that I disagree with your use-case at all, it seems perfectly valid but… I’ve owned Macs since 2006 and have never had to worry about driver issues once. Come to think of it, I don’t really worry about the CPU either since M1. iPads are not for me but I’m happy that they’re for someone else.