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It’s too late for that. On YouTube even if you pay for premium, you still get ads in the form of sponsored segments, and probably in the recommendation algorith

by thiht 3y ago

It’s too late for that. On YouTube even if you pay for premium, you still get ads in the form of sponsored segments, and probably in the recommendation algorithm (I’d be surprised if big corps had no way to pay to bump their videos in search results). More and more platforms will try the « paid subscription with ads » in the coming years.

thallium205 3y ago
But with premium the scroll bar at least will tell you where to scroll to to skip the ad via the histogram.
- thiht 3y ago
  With SponsorBlock it will skip the ad for you.
ryan-allen 3y ago
The sponsored segments as in advertising that creators have negotiated directly? I have YouTube Premium and that's the only type of ad I get, I don't get anything else.
- thiht 3y ago
  I have SmartTubeNext and I don’t even have that. When a free experience can do better than the premium experience, your product have a problem. I’m not even sorry about SponsorBlock, creators still get their money, I don’t have to watch the sponsored segment, and advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it. So it’s zero impact on the creator, big impact on my sanity.
  - Ajedi32 3y ago
    > advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it Actually per-segment viewership gets tracked by YouTube and displayed in the YouTube creator tools. I wouldn't be surprised if those statistics get used when negotiating deals with sponsors.
  - kernal 3y ago
    >and advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it So YouTube has no idea that the content was skipped by SponsorBlock? I find that hard to believe.
    - amatecha 3y ago
      Yeah, it's unquestionably tracked what exact portions of a YT video your browser actually loads and plays. All playback is controlled by JS and there's no reason YT doesn't hook into those actions and record metrics of every play/pause/seek/mute/etc. user action (in addition to actual network requests made by the browser).
cwkoss 3y ago
When people recognize how cognitively harmful ads really are, there will be a movement to pirate and rehost all content decentrally, edited to remove interstitials and sponsored segments. Ads targeting children would be an international crime if our world was just.
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  People have been warned about the cognitive harm from advertisements for probably over 100 years now. Its not going anywhere unfortunately, its too profitable.

by thiht 3y ago

thallium205 3y ago

But with premium the scroll bar at least will tell you where to scroll to to skip the ad via the histogram.

thiht 3y ago
With SponsorBlock it will skip the ad for you.

ryan-allen 3y ago

The sponsored segments as in advertising that creators have negotiated directly? I have YouTube Premium and that's the only type of ad I get, I don't get anything else.

thiht 3y ago
I have SmartTubeNext and I don’t even have that. When a free experience can do better than the premium experience, your product have a problem. I’m not even sorry about SponsorBlock, creators still get their money, I don’t have to watch the sponsored segment, and advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it. So it’s zero impact on the creator, big impact on my sanity.
- Ajedi32 3y ago
  > advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it Actually per-segment viewership gets tracked by YouTube and displayed in the YouTube creator tools. I wouldn't be surprised if those statistics get used when negotiating deals with sponsors.
- kernal 3y ago
  >and advertisers have no way to know I didn’t watch it So YouTube has no idea that the content was skipped by SponsorBlock? I find that hard to believe.
  - amatecha 3y ago
    Yeah, it's unquestionably tracked what exact portions of a YT video your browser actually loads and plays. All playback is controlled by JS and there's no reason YT doesn't hook into those actions and record metrics of every play/pause/seek/mute/etc. user action (in addition to actual network requests made by the browser).

cwkoss 3y ago

When people recognize how cognitively harmful ads really are, there will be a movement to pirate and rehost all content decentrally, edited to remove interstitials and sponsored segments. Ads targeting children would be an international crime if our world was just.

kjkjadksj 3y ago
People have been warned about the cognitive harm from advertisements for probably over 100 years now. Its not going anywhere unfortunately, its too profitable.