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With due respect, you've made a very poor argument here. The harms caused by many historical actions have significant, ongoing consequences to this day. You've

With due respect, you've made a very poor argument here. The harms caused by many historical actions have significant, ongoing consequences to this day. You've stated that taking actions to "repair or correct" those harms can be "dangerous" without actually presenting any evidence for it. The idea of "letting it go" feels vey much like it's coming from a position of privilege. I'd be happy to discuss these ideas further if you would like to.

yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
I’m white, and my ancestors suffered through slavery and genocide. How much am I owed in reparations?
- nailer 3y ago
  I’m not sure why this is downvoted. Turkey with the slavs, Britain with Ireland, and many African countries profited greatly from slavery.
- luckydata 3y ago
  the last known victim of a lynching in the USA were Italians. https://lasc.libguides.com/mass-lynching-italian-americans#:~:text=Most%20people%20do%20not%20realize,rounded%20up%20by%20the%20hundreds https://lasc.libguides.com/mass-lynching-italian-americans#:.... I'm expecting my reparation checks anytime now.
nailer 3y ago
The idea of punishing people for something their ancestors may or may not have done based on skin color is racism. Other commenters do not need to engage with you to refute this racism.
peanutcrisis 3y ago
You're conflating pragmatism with "position of privilege". You're free to disagree whether "let it go" is ideal or not. However, assuming "privilege" here is just bad faith and discriminatory; you're making an unsubstantiated character judgement on the basis of someone's race or class. Clearly, people, regardless of their race or class, have the ability to observe, to evaluate evidence, and to think critically. This is not a quality that's exclusive to "sacred victims". Surely it's possible that someone's race and class could introduce blindspots to their perspective (which extends to "scared victims" as well), but assuming that to be the default flaw in someone's position as opposed to actually finding that flaw in that person's position is intellectually dishonest. Conversations about race breakdown because ideologues are more interested in enforcing their views as opposed to finding out the truth. Smear tactics like accusing someone of being blindsided by "privilege" is the modern day equivalent of writing off your opponents without actually addressing their actual points.

yakshaving_jgt 3y ago

I’m white, and my ancestors suffered through slavery and genocide. How much am I owed in reparations?

nailer 3y ago
I’m not sure why this is downvoted. Turkey with the slavs, Britain with Ireland, and many African countries profited greatly from slavery.
luckydata 3y ago
the last known victim of a lynching in the USA were Italians. https://lasc.libguides.com/mass-lynching-italian-americans#:~:text=Most%20people%20do%20not%20realize,rounded%20up%20by%20the%20hundreds https://lasc.libguides.com/mass-lynching-italian-americans#:.... I'm expecting my reparation checks anytime now.

nailer 3y ago

The idea of punishing people for something their ancestors may or may not have done based on skin color is racism. Other commenters do not need to engage with you to refute this racism.

peanutcrisis 3y ago

You're conflating pragmatism with "position of privilege". You're free to disagree whether "let it go" is ideal or not. However, assuming "privilege" here is just bad faith and discriminatory; you're making an unsubstantiated character judgement on the basis of someone's race or class. Clearly, people, regardless of their race or class, have the ability to observe, to evaluate evidence, and to think critically. This is not a quality that's exclusive to "sacred victims". Surely it's possible that someone's race and class could introduce blindspots to their perspective (which extends to "scared victims" as well), but assuming that to be the default flaw in someone's position as opposed to actually finding that flaw in that person's position is intellectually dishonest. Conversations about race breakdown because ideologues are more interested in enforcing their views as opposed to finding out the truth. Smear tactics like accusing someone of being blindsided by "privilege" is the modern day equivalent of writing off your opponents without actually addressing their actual points.