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I don't think it's a decent argument. You are using the "I was at the train station and I was never mugged there, therefore mugging never happens at train stat
by cookiengineer 3y ago
I don't think it's a decent argument.
You are using the "I was at the train station and I was never mugged there, therefore mugging never happens at train stations" extrapolated argument.
People still think that smoking doesn't cause cancer, even when they are in the hospital because of not being able to breathe.
People still deny that climate change exists because of that one bought study in the 60s.
People still drink chlorified water and governments still are too lazy to use a biological cleaning process all over the world, even though it is proven that this increases cancer rates 2x as much.
As the devil's advocate I'd argue that people will only change their behaviour if a person within their personal influence radius dies because of it.
If they just read about it, they don't care.
- valec 3y agook, but if 10,000 people go to the train station and 2 get mugged instead of 1 at the bus stop, is it not fair to say it's still pretty safe?
- freshpots 3y ago"People still drink chlorified water and governments still are too lazy to use a biological cleaning process all over the world..." What biological cleaning process are you referring to? How does it prevent bacterial growth in the water distribution system?
- tomcam 3y agoMicroscopic chloroforms. I’m pretty sure they’re related to midi-chlorians. </joke>
- freshpots 3y agoThank you for telling everyone that you are not even remotely involved in water treatment, especially for those that are. No matter the treatment method, absolutely purified water can encounter pathogens. The water treatment process uses various methods to make water safe for consumption but the distribution system requires a residual for any biological contaminants that can enter, or be harbored within, and low concentrations of free chlorine (<2 ppm) provide that while carrying very little risk. Especially compared to most risks in modern life, like being in a passenger vehicle. Safe drinking water, partially due to chlorination is the greatest public health achievement of humanity so far. You are spreading misinformation.
- tomcam 3y agoIt was low-quality humor. I figured the midi-chlorian reference gave it away, due to the high density of Star Wars fandom on this site. Sorry to trigger you. I added a joke indicator, and I hope your blood pressure will decrease. https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlorians https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlo...
- freshpots 3y agoIt was obvious. Don't waste everyone's time talking way outside your level of expertise and then trying to make jokes when you're called out. It's juvenile.
- tomcam 3y agoMan it seems like you’re having a rough week. I hope you can enjoy your weekend! Cheers.
- freshpots 3y agoThanks and I was, I'm sorry that I acted like that.
- happymellon 3y agoIt was CookieEngineer who made the original comment about something to do with biological cleaning of water. You may have caught that, but it was Tomcan who made the "joke" comment. I just read it as they responded to your question, but added the terrible humour to imply that they didn't take it seriously.
- cookiengineer 3y agoThis [1] and [2] are a pretty good primer on how Kläranlagen are built in Germany where we use a biological water treatment process and are recycling 96% of sewage water. The remaining ~4% (the Schlacke) usually are used as fertilizers for farming or are burned in biogas energy plants. The latter happens when the quality is not good enough or the sewege plant doesn't have a stage 4 filtration system. The German wikipedia entry is actually also pretty good [4] [1] https://umwelt.provinz.bz.it/wasser/wie-funktioniert-eine-klaeranlage.asp https://umwelt.provinz.bz.it/wasser/wie-funktioniert-eine-kl... [2] https://av-selbitztal.de/klaeranlage-naila/funktionsweise https://av-selbitztal.de/klaeranlage-naila/funktionsweise [3] https://industryeurope.com/sectors/energy-utilities/how-germanys-wastewater-management-benefits-its-businesses/ https://industryeurope.com/sectors/energy-utilities/how-germ... [4] https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kl%C3%A4ranlage https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kl%C3%A4ranlage
- freshpots 3y agoThat's a sewage treatment plant treatment process. We don't typically drink treated wastewater, but some places recycle the water after a intensive purification process. Chlorine in drinking water treatment is used for disinfection and a small amount is added after treatment to keep bacteria from growing in the distribution system. Your information is not really relevant but interesting.
- rootusrootus 3y agoAdmittedly I don't read German, but I read the translated version and ... it looks very much like a typical sewage treatment plant in the US? What's unique about it? Not adding any chlorine is an interesting choice in any case, you can start out with perfectly pure water and still end up with contamination along the way to your tap. A tiny amount of chlorine prevents that, and it evaporates quickly after the water leaves the tap.
- wkat4242 3y agoIt's not that argument. It's more like "1 million people were at the train station and were never mugged there".
- cookiengineer 3y agoI doubt that you asked and verified the statements of 1 million people before you made that comment.