>I don't hate Ruby or the Rails framework, but I do hate this attitude that I see proliferated through the vast majority of people I speak to who use Rails. I'

>I don't hate Ruby or the Rails framework, but I do hate this attitude that I see proliferated through the vast majority of people I speak to who use Rails. I'm sorry you feel this way, and to be honest, it was exactly what kept me away from getting on rails when I first heard about it in 2005. The attitude was a massive turnoff and it took me 2 years to get over it and finally start using Rails (I discovered how many of my problems it solved). I'm a Ruby/Rails dev who's done ASP, ASP.NET, PHP, Coldfusion, Perl with C++, Assembly and Java in College, and my experience is that ... across the board with programming languages or frameworks, the brightest guys are also usually the most humble. If a person exudes a superior OR condescending attitude about a particular framework or language, especially if that is the only one they use, I generally just ignore them. I think you should too. I find (and this is a massive overgeneralization, so beware) that people like this aren't very flexible thinkers, prone to dogma and group think. By filtering this way, you can actually zero in on the people that have something valuable to add to your life as a dev. Just my 2c.