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I couldn't see any information other than 'Android 13' on the page -- how long do Asus tend to support their devices for? Sibling comments about LineageOS do gi

I couldn't see any information other than 'Android 13' on the page -- how long do Asus tend to support their devices for? Sibling comments about LineageOS do give me some hope that if I buy this for a family member that tends to keep their phones for 5-10 years, it might actually be able to go the distance. Am I the only one who feels that a device this powerful and expensive lasting 2-3years (or less!) is crazy? Especially when it's a 'software' limitation.

0cVlTeIATBs 3y ago
Reviewers are saying 4 years security updates, 2 years major android version updates.
- eBombzor 3y ago
  I mean, I'm not saying that I need the latest Android all the time, but 2 years is pathetic.
  - lagmos 3y ago
    It's 2 major revisions, which is alright
    - eBombzor 3y ago
      No. No it's not. Rather get a last gen apple mini
  - fomine3 3y ago
    Recent Android updates are boring (except foldable support), thanks to Google made apps and middlewares separated (unlike Apple iOS). I'm fine with older version with security patches.
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
And the software limitation seems to be a pretty weak excuse given that volunteer devs support LineageOS on devices well older than 2 years. Plus other crazy things about the replacement cycle: - Battery life (arguably) degrades faster than software support and yet the industry moved AWAY from replaceable baterries - Software bloat makes hardware seem slower, where replacing a factory ROM with LineageOS or some other slimmer Android version can really feel like a hardware upgrade - The e-waste, my word the e-waste! There's no cost to the manfacturer for any kind of lifecycle management of the (some very precious) resources used to create these devices (this is also true for pretty much every industry). - The opposite of the "Microsoft Office feature" effect. The average consumer seems to need the latest trivial upgrade or new cool-but-actually-pointless function that manufacturers dream up as a differentiator. Remember when numerous iterations of Microsoft Office meant no actual usage difference to anyone but absolute power users. Times have changed, consumer culture is a tightening cycle. (not that I'm immune, and I have to consciously try quite hard to resist it). - Counter to the point above: removal of general-purpose computing functions / use-cases. No SD card slot, no headphone jack. I used to have an Sony Ericsson that had a mini/micro HDMI port. Was able to output video to a TV with the appropriate cable. These devices are so capable of many things, but they're handcuffed and hamstrung by design. My current phone is only 2.5 years old, custom ROM installed so it's on Android 13 and runs really well, and it's the battery life that's making it feel "old" (now that the custom ROM has solved the software old-ness issue).

0cVlTeIATBs 3y ago

Reviewers are saying 4 years security updates, 2 years major android version updates.

eBombzor 3y ago
I mean, I'm not saying that I need the latest Android all the time, but 2 years is pathetic.
- lagmos 3y ago
  It's 2 major revisions, which is alright
  - eBombzor 3y ago
    No. No it's not. Rather get a last gen apple mini
- fomine3 3y ago
  Recent Android updates are boring (except foldable support), thanks to Google made apps and middlewares separated (unlike Apple iOS). I'm fine with older version with security patches.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

And the software limitation seems to be a pretty weak excuse given that volunteer devs support LineageOS on devices well older than 2 years. Plus other crazy things about the replacement cycle: - Battery life (arguably) degrades faster than software support and yet the industry moved AWAY from replaceable baterries - Software bloat makes hardware seem slower, where replacing a factory ROM with LineageOS or some other slimmer Android version can really feel like a hardware upgrade - The e-waste, my word the e-waste! There's no cost to the manfacturer for any kind of lifecycle management of the (some very precious) resources used to create these devices (this is also true for pretty much every industry). - The opposite of the "Microsoft Office feature" effect. The average consumer seems to need the latest trivial upgrade or new cool-but-actually-pointless function that manufacturers dream up as a differentiator. Remember when numerous iterations of Microsoft Office meant no actual usage difference to anyone but absolute power users. Times have changed, consumer culture is a tightening cycle. (not that I'm immune, and I have to consciously try quite hard to resist it). - Counter to the point above: removal of general-purpose computing functions / use-cases. No SD card slot, no headphone jack. I used to have an Sony Ericsson that had a mini/micro HDMI port. Was able to output video to a TV with the appropriate cable. These devices are so capable of many things, but they're handcuffed and hamstrung by design. My current phone is only 2.5 years old, custom ROM installed so it's on Android 13 and runs really well, and it's the battery life that's making it feel "old" (now that the custom ROM has solved the software old-ness issue).