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> If I am in my normal raw intellect, I will begin going deep on some topic thats outside the range of normal human discourse. It will be hard for me to stop, b

> If I am in my normal raw intellect, I will begin going deep on some topic thats outside the range of normal human discourse. It will be hard for me to stop, because of my interest. Alcohol removes that to a large degree. Peak HN.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
It's 1985 I am stoned with my roommate hearing this comment. it's 2008 I am on reddit reading this comment. it's 2023 I am on HN reading this comment.
- jahsome 3y ago
  It's 2040 and BroGPT 7 responds with this to all prompts.
jcims 3y ago
The description might be a bit indulgent, but the experience resonates. Having a conversation about flowers and your mind wants to talk about why there seems to be an innate attraction towards the scent of certain flowers. Like what is the electrochemical process that creates sensation in your mind of attraction and beauty and a pleasant experience when a certain set of chemicals bind to receptors in your head. But then you don’t because the last time you did something like that you just got a blank stare, and ‘hmmm!’ and a change in topics.
- giraffe_lady 3y ago
  There's no brain so big it prevents you from just enjoying the smell of the flower instead.
  - saulpw 3y ago
    Note though that it was a conversation about flowers, possibly at a party with no flowers in sight. Imagine it went like this: jcims: So what kind of hobbies are you into? Bob: I love my garden, I planted several new flowers last weekend in fact. jcims: Oh? What kind of flowers are you growing? Bob: These latest are Lenten roses, I know a lot of people find the smell a bit unpleasant, but I actually prefer it to the zinnias. jcims (sober): Isn't it interesting how there seems to be an innate attraction towards the scent of certain flowers. Like what is the electrochemical process that creates sensation in your mind of attraction and beauty and a pleasant experience when a certain set of chemicals bind to receptors in your head. Bob: I don't know about chemistry, I'm just a gardener. --- Alternately: jcims (tipsy): That's cool! I've never heard of Lentil roses. Do they smell different than real roses? Bob: chuckle Finally, a pleasant party conversation! The last person I talked with must have had a Ph.D. in neurochemistry or something, they started talking about electroreceptors and I just couldn't think of anything smart enough to say.
johnfn 3y ago
Is there something wrong with talking about the problems associated with intelligence? They certainly exist and I think most intelligent people are familiar with them - but whenever I see them brought up they get casually brushed off with comments such as yours. I can't see how they're categorically different than any other set of problems.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  That's why it's not then intelligent that rule the world, it's the sociopaths.
- toolz 3y ago
  How could intellect, or the ability to reason and understand things ever be a problem connecting socially? If it's a problem, then it's not intellect but rather a lack of something. I would suggest it's a lack of intellect, or the lack of understanding the people around you and being able to find common threads of interest. This isn't a problem of high intellect. Everyone has absolute loads of things in common with every other human on this planet. If you can't connect with another human, it's not because of high intellect.
  - johnfn 3y ago
    > How could intellect, or the ability to reason and understand things ever be a problem connecting socially? Really? You don't think that intelligence has multiple components - raw intelligence, social intelligence, etc? And that you could in theory be good at one but not at the other?
    - toolz 3y ago
      Sure, but analytical intelligence surely doesn't get in the way of social intelligence I wouldn't think. So my statement holds in that case where you lack some type of intelligence. I can't see any reason that someone who is really intelligent at technical things couldn't be just as socially intelligent. They probably just don't have as much practice with social environments when compared to technical problems.

giraffe_lady 3y ago

It's 1985 I am stoned with my roommate hearing this comment. it's 2008 I am on reddit reading this comment. it's 2023 I am on HN reading this comment.

jahsome 3y ago
It's 2040 and BroGPT 7 responds with this to all prompts.

jcims 3y ago

The description might be a bit indulgent, but the experience resonates. Having a conversation about flowers and your mind wants to talk about why there seems to be an innate attraction towards the scent of certain flowers. Like what is the electrochemical process that creates sensation in your mind of attraction and beauty and a pleasant experience when a certain set of chemicals bind to receptors in your head. But then you don’t because the last time you did something like that you just got a blank stare, and ‘hmmm!’ and a change in topics.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
There's no brain so big it prevents you from just enjoying the smell of the flower instead.
- saulpw 3y ago
  Note though that it was a conversation about flowers, possibly at a party with no flowers in sight. Imagine it went like this: jcims: So what kind of hobbies are you into? Bob: I love my garden, I planted several new flowers last weekend in fact. jcims: Oh? What kind of flowers are you growing? Bob: These latest are Lenten roses, I know a lot of people find the smell a bit unpleasant, but I actually prefer it to the zinnias. jcims (sober): Isn't it interesting how there seems to be an innate attraction towards the scent of certain flowers. Like what is the electrochemical process that creates sensation in your mind of attraction and beauty and a pleasant experience when a certain set of chemicals bind to receptors in your head. Bob: I don't know about chemistry, I'm just a gardener. --- Alternately: jcims (tipsy): That's cool! I've never heard of Lentil roses. Do they smell different than real roses? Bob: chuckle Finally, a pleasant party conversation! The last person I talked with must have had a Ph.D. in neurochemistry or something, they started talking about electroreceptors and I just couldn't think of anything smart enough to say.

johnfn 3y ago

Is there something wrong with talking about the problems associated with intelligence? They certainly exist and I think most intelligent people are familiar with them - but whenever I see them brought up they get casually brushed off with comments such as yours. I can't see how they're categorically different than any other set of problems.

mensetmanusman 3y ago
That's why it's not then intelligent that rule the world, it's the sociopaths.
toolz 3y ago
How could intellect, or the ability to reason and understand things ever be a problem connecting socially? If it's a problem, then it's not intellect but rather a lack of something. I would suggest it's a lack of intellect, or the lack of understanding the people around you and being able to find common threads of interest. This isn't a problem of high intellect. Everyone has absolute loads of things in common with every other human on this planet. If you can't connect with another human, it's not because of high intellect.
- johnfn 3y ago
  > How could intellect, or the ability to reason and understand things ever be a problem connecting socially? Really? You don't think that intelligence has multiple components - raw intelligence, social intelligence, etc? And that you could in theory be good at one but not at the other?
  - toolz 3y ago
    Sure, but analytical intelligence surely doesn't get in the way of social intelligence I wouldn't think. So my statement holds in that case where you lack some type of intelligence. I can't see any reason that someone who is really intelligent at technical things couldn't be just as socially intelligent. They probably just don't have as much practice with social environments when compared to technical problems.