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Legacy is always brought up in these discussions. The amount of students who get into Harvard because of the boost from their race outnumbers the number of lega

by az226 3y ago

Legacy is always brought up in these discussions. The amount of students who get into Harvard because of the boost from their race outnumbers the number of legacy students who get boosted from their status 20 to 1. Basically a race and legacy blind policy would reject 20 times more minorities than legacy applicants and then if the policy is race and legacy discriminatory.

az226 3y ago
A typical class at Harvard has 2,500 student admits. Of those, 700 are black or Hispanic. If Harvard did away with legacy admissions, 25 additional Hispanic or black applicants would be admitted, so 725. However, if they did away with affirmative action, 450 would not be admitted, so you would be down to 275. Most of these 425 spots would go to Asian applicants and a chunk would go to white applicants. http://public.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/legacyathlete.pdf http://public.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/legacyathlete.pdf
- blindriver 3y ago
  450 spots to less deserving students would go to 450 more deserving students? That seems pretty fair to me. Unless you want to focus on the color of the skin of students and not the content of their character.
  - az226 3y ago
    Agreed. Racial discrimination preferences won’t be missed.
ckemere 3y ago
Status please? My understanding is that something like 50% of white students had a non academic boost (including legacy and "athletics"). *Harvard specifically, not UNC
- az226 3y ago
  In a typical class of 2500 students at Harvard, removing legacy preference would increase the minority population by 25. Removing athletic preference would and another 25. Removing minority racial preference would remove 450. 450 is 18x times larger than 25. But lots of legacy whataboutism. It’s not as big of an impact as people like to think / eat the rich, etc.

3 ms·

Legacy is always brought up in these discussions. The amount of students who get into Harvard because of the boost from their race outnumbers the number of lega

by az226 3y ago

az226 3y ago
A typical class at Harvard has 2,500 student admits. Of those, 700 are black or Hispanic. If Harvard did away with legacy admissions, 25 additional Hispanic or black applicants would be admitted, so 725. However, if they did away with affirmative action, 450 would not be admitted, so you would be down to 275. Most of these 425 spots would go to Asian applicants and a chunk would go to white applicants. http://public.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/legacyathlete.pdf http://public.econ.duke.edu/~psarcidi/legacyathlete.pdf
- blindriver 3y ago
  450 spots to less deserving students would go to 450 more deserving students? That seems pretty fair to me. Unless you want to focus on the color of the skin of students and not the content of their character.
  - az226 3y ago
    Agreed. Racial discrimination preferences won’t be missed.
ckemere 3y ago
Status please? My understanding is that something like 50% of white students had a non academic boost (including legacy and "athletics"). *Harvard specifically, not UNC
- az226 3y ago
  In a typical class of 2500 students at Harvard, removing legacy preference would increase the minority population by 25. Removing athletic preference would and another 25. Removing minority racial preference would remove 450. 450 is 18x times larger than 25. But lots of legacy whataboutism. It’s not as big of an impact as people like to think / eat the rich, etc.