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> If opposing "dictators and warmongers" is so important, why were European NATO members so unprepared for the 2022 war? I refer you to my grandparent comment:
by SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
> If opposing "dictators and warmongers" is so important, why were European NATO members so unprepared for the 2022 war?
I refer you to my grandparent comment: "European thinking has recently realised", that unpreparedness being the main example of the realisation. IDK what you think you're arguing against, that Europe could have realised earlier that neoliberal oil-imports from Russia were not actually going to help peace? yeah, sure, but not what anyone was saying anyway.
> Germany (and thus Europe) would not have faced an existential threat to its economy and industry from 1000-2500% rises in gas bills.
Citation needed, both for "existential economic threat" and "2500% rise in gas bill". Both are ridiculous.
> 100% self-inflicted.
I think that it's nonsense in general that country A's invasion of country B is a "100% self-inflicted error" of country C.
> Had the sensible Europeans listened to Trump, Europe would now be secure against Russian threats.
That's certainly an opinion. Of all the points of view that I have seen today, that definitely is one.
> don't be surprised if America isn't so quick the next time to oppose dictators and warmongers on Europe's doorstep.
No, I won't be surprised at all if the USA elects a sycophant towards dictators and warmongers on Europe's doorstep. No-one will. You've done it once already. That's the point.
- TMWNN 3y ago>IDK what you think you're arguing against, that Europe could have realised earlier that neoliberal oil-imports from Russia were not actually going to help peace? yeah, sure, but not what anyone was saying anyway. "oil imports from Russia will help peace" is, in fact, exactly the stance Germany took for about 20 years, until February 2022, with Merkel and her predecessor and successor all leading exponents. I ask again: Who was right? Trump or Stoltenberg? Who was right? Trump or Maas? Can you answer these questions honestly, or will you eternally avoid doing so with idiocies like "That's certainly an opinion. Of all the points of view that I have seen today, that definitely is one"?
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago> "oil imports from Russia will help peace" is, in fact, exactly the stance Germany took And no-one is disagreeing with that, can't you read?