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> The native views of thunderbird are wonderfully performant Are we using the same Thunderbird? For me it feels rather sluggish.

ksec 3y ago
99% of HN suggest VSCode is very fast, when Sublime exist. It is one reason why the other day we have a submission "Windows NT on 600MHz machine opens apps instantly. What happened" Most people aren't latency sensitive. Or do not care about it enough. The world of computing has then settle of sluggish behaviour being the norm. As most are OK with it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36446933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36446933
- FractalHQ 3y ago
  I’m pretty sure the apps do a lot more now than they did on windows XT. I wouldn’t build with Electron over something like Tauri+Svelte but I also don’t mind waiting 1 second for hundreds of great extensions and lsps to load once for a 4 hour session.
  - funcDropShadow 3y ago
    > I’m pretty sure the apps do a lot more now than they did on windows XT The question is whether that additional work is of any benefit to the user.
rstuart4133 3y ago
Sluggish? It's near instantaneous at everything, except when it's doing network operations. It literally does a keyword stem search on a 4GB mailbox in under a 1/10 of a second. That's the fastest inverted index lookup I've ever seen - all accomplished with just sqlite. I consider it amazing. It makes the old version of Outlook look like a dog. A one legged dog. And the leg is broken. As others have noted, as soon at it has to access the network it slows down. A lot. And it you queue up enough operations, it can get confused - particularly if the network drops out in the middle and it has to re-sync everything. But it is imap, so I forgive it. To get it's native non-networked speed, you do have to ensure every folder is downloaded to local storage. Do that, and it's amazingly quick.

ksec 3y ago

99% of HN suggest VSCode is very fast, when Sublime exist. It is one reason why the other day we have a submission "Windows NT on 600MHz machine opens apps instantly. What happened" Most people aren't latency sensitive. Or do not care about it enough. The world of computing has then settle of sluggish behaviour being the norm. As most are OK with it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36446933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36446933

FractalHQ 3y ago
I’m pretty sure the apps do a lot more now than they did on windows XT. I wouldn’t build with Electron over something like Tauri+Svelte but I also don’t mind waiting 1 second for hundreds of great extensions and lsps to load once for a 4 hour session.
- funcDropShadow 3y ago
  > I’m pretty sure the apps do a lot more now than they did on windows XT The question is whether that additional work is of any benefit to the user.

rstuart4133 3y ago

Sluggish? It's near instantaneous at everything, except when it's doing network operations. It literally does a keyword stem search on a 4GB mailbox in under a 1/10 of a second. That's the fastest inverted index lookup I've ever seen - all accomplished with just sqlite. I consider it amazing. It makes the old version of Outlook look like a dog. A one legged dog. And the leg is broken. As others have noted, as soon at it has to access the network it slows down. A lot. And it you queue up enough operations, it can get confused - particularly if the network drops out in the middle and it has to re-sync everything. But it is imap, so I forgive it. To get it's native non-networked speed, you do have to ensure every folder is downloaded to local storage. Do that, and it's amazingly quick.