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KDE Plasma made getting back to desktop Linux after 15 years of macOS an easy task. Despite GNOME often being described as closer to macOS and Plasma closer to

by mikae1 3y ago

KDE Plasma made getting back to desktop Linux after 15 years of macOS an easy task. Despite GNOME often being described as closer to macOS and Plasma closer to Windows I've found that no DE comes close to the configurability and polish that Plasma has. Congratulations!

_benj 3y ago
Same experience here. I was getting fed up with every new gnome release taking away more features and at the same time was missing the niceties of macOS. Decided to give plasma a try and it quickly turn into my daily driver. No need for gnome tweaks, or even confit files, right-click whatever I want to change and there’s a setting to change it!
- edbaskerville 3y ago
  And here! I switched from Mac to a Framework with Ubuntu/GNOME six months ago. Switched to Fedora/KDE Plasma this week and it's been so much better--everything is so much more discoverable. That said, Dolphin just got a bug where it crashes during thumbnail generation, and I'm seeing artifacts in Wayland with fractional scaling, but the KDE bug system is very visible and easy to navigate, so that I'm pretty confident these will be fixed soon. (I did know what I was getting into when I left Apple for the Wild West.)
  - mikae1 3y ago
    PCManFM-Qt is highly recommended. Looks and feels right at home in Plasma and is a little less quirky than Dolphin.
  - _benj 3y ago
    I've been using X11 and everything has been flawless.
    - edbaskerville 3y ago
      As far as I can tell there's no way to get proper pinch-to-zoom in Xorg, so I'm going with Wayland for now. It is totally insane that this is a thing for a user to think about.
asdlfkjasdlfjkh 3y ago
gnome is not closer to macOS. sadly gnome is coopted into making bad decisions under the guise of copying macOS. As soon as the "designers" got more funding than the coding contributors, the whole gnome org went down the drain. They often trhow away complete systems and replace them with something that are unusable "to drive coding contributors". They are completely disconnected from the community. Ubuntu tries to work around all that (by making their own shell, settings apps, etc) so it is not too obvious, but if you use debian, you probably spend several months without basic desktop funcionality every time they pushed something. Gnome is the inspiration for the systemD politics. So, no gnome is not closer to macOS. but gnome is broken by using copying macOS as an excuse by the designer teams.
- hamandcheese 3y ago
  > Gnome is the inspiration for the systemD politics. Could you clarify what you mean by this?
  - simion314 3y ago
    Not parent , GNOME is not a community project, there seems to be one or a few big ego persons that do not even use GNOME and that push a "vision". Like they wanted CSD and they decreed that everyone, even non-GNOME apps like old games that nobody works on should implement CSD because they are not going to be backwards compatible. Same with notifications, old apps, third party apps should implement the GNOME way, they do not care for supporting non-GNOME stuff. But more power for them, they self select a niche user, a "GNOME user" that either is compatible with the GNOME way or they will contort themselves into it.
    - foresto 3y ago
      Their relentless push of design choices that I find intolerable is what eventually drove me to ditch Gtk in favor of Qt for my personal projects, and leave Xfce in favor of Plasma on my desktop. What a relief it has been. It's important to me that my UI be something I actually want to use.
pjmlp 3y ago
GNOME is closer only in look, it isn't in feel, and certainly isn't in development experience.
alexhornby 3y ago
same, KDE has great global menu support

by mikae1 3y ago

_benj 3y ago

Same experience here. I was getting fed up with every new gnome release taking away more features and at the same time was missing the niceties of macOS. Decided to give plasma a try and it quickly turn into my daily driver. No need for gnome tweaks, or even confit files, right-click whatever I want to change and there’s a setting to change it!

edbaskerville 3y ago
And here! I switched from Mac to a Framework with Ubuntu/GNOME six months ago. Switched to Fedora/KDE Plasma this week and it's been so much better--everything is so much more discoverable. That said, Dolphin just got a bug where it crashes during thumbnail generation, and I'm seeing artifacts in Wayland with fractional scaling, but the KDE bug system is very visible and easy to navigate, so that I'm pretty confident these will be fixed soon. (I did know what I was getting into when I left Apple for the Wild West.)
- mikae1 3y ago
  PCManFM-Qt is highly recommended. Looks and feels right at home in Plasma and is a little less quirky than Dolphin.
- _benj 3y ago
  I've been using X11 and everything has been flawless.
  - edbaskerville 3y ago
    As far as I can tell there's no way to get proper pinch-to-zoom in Xorg, so I'm going with Wayland for now. It is totally insane that this is a thing for a user to think about.

asdlfkjasdlfjkh 3y ago

gnome is not closer to macOS. sadly gnome is coopted into making bad decisions under the guise of copying macOS. As soon as the "designers" got more funding than the coding contributors, the whole gnome org went down the drain. They often trhow away complete systems and replace them with something that are unusable "to drive coding contributors". They are completely disconnected from the community. Ubuntu tries to work around all that (by making their own shell, settings apps, etc) so it is not too obvious, but if you use debian, you probably spend several months without basic desktop funcionality every time they pushed something. Gnome is the inspiration for the systemD politics. So, no gnome is not closer to macOS. but gnome is broken by using copying macOS as an excuse by the designer teams.

hamandcheese 3y ago
> Gnome is the inspiration for the systemD politics. Could you clarify what you mean by this?
- simion314 3y ago
  Not parent , GNOME is not a community project, there seems to be one or a few big ego persons that do not even use GNOME and that push a "vision". Like they wanted CSD and they decreed that everyone, even non-GNOME apps like old games that nobody works on should implement CSD because they are not going to be backwards compatible. Same with notifications, old apps, third party apps should implement the GNOME way, they do not care for supporting non-GNOME stuff. But more power for them, they self select a niche user, a "GNOME user" that either is compatible with the GNOME way or they will contort themselves into it.
  - foresto 3y ago
    Their relentless push of design choices that I find intolerable is what eventually drove me to ditch Gtk in favor of Qt for my personal projects, and leave Xfce in favor of Plasma on my desktop. What a relief it has been. It's important to me that my UI be something I actually want to use.

pjmlp 3y ago

GNOME is closer only in look, it isn't in feel, and certainly isn't in development experience.

alexhornby 3y ago

same, KDE has great global menu support