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Not sure If I agree with this article. My experience in the big co is that trying to navigate through large systems with many moving parts and stakeholders and

Not sure If I agree with this article. My experience in the big co is that trying to navigate through large systems with many moving parts and stakeholders and come up with a solution and execute as quickly as you can is very exciting. And you definitely need to be creative to trying to align and solve some many problems in 1 design. It's a very challenging and fun experience

metalforever 3y ago
Not to bring in this separate issue, but it can be impossible to navigate this as a technically skilled minority . Some people just don't want to work with you and are not going to work with you unless they can tell you exactly how things should be. In large orgs, you may end up with more than one of these people and they just don't align. If coming up with a design that pleases both of them is possible at all, it ends up being a turd architecturally . Later, because its a turd, people pin blame on you.
- gloryjulio 3y ago
  When you are blocked by non technical issues, it should be the manager's job to help you clear the roadblocks. If the manager is not doing his job, it's probably time to switch teams or jobs. Tbf haven't seen anything like this yet. There are tons minorities working in tech(myself included)
  - cudgy 3y ago
    “If the manager is not doing his job, it's probably time to switch teams or jobs.” You’ll be switching jobs quite a bit then.
    - gloryjulio 3y ago
      I did change jobs a few times but only for the compensation reasons. My current manager and the past managers are great. Expectations goes both ways. The companies expect the ICs to ship code, and the ICs can expect to work with competent managers. Pay attention when selecting your team.
    - pg_1234 3y ago
      Don't think of it as switching jobs a lot. Think of it as still searching for the right job, funded by the employers who fail.
      - nathants 3y ago
        many of the truths we cling to, a certain point of view.
    - eschneider 3y ago
      Eh...not so much. There are definitely good managers out there. If you're a strong IC and you have reasonable expectations on what you need for support, it's usually not _that_ hard to identify a good manager when interviewing.
  - metalforever 3y ago
    This is a separate issue . I’m talking about corralling tech leads from different teams to sign off on an architecture or initiative .

metalforever 3y ago

Not to bring in this separate issue, but it can be impossible to navigate this as a technically skilled minority . Some people just don't want to work with you and are not going to work with you unless they can tell you exactly how things should be. In large orgs, you may end up with more than one of these people and they just don't align. If coming up with a design that pleases both of them is possible at all, it ends up being a turd architecturally . Later, because its a turd, people pin blame on you.

gloryjulio 3y ago
When you are blocked by non technical issues, it should be the manager's job to help you clear the roadblocks. If the manager is not doing his job, it's probably time to switch teams or jobs. Tbf haven't seen anything like this yet. There are tons minorities working in tech(myself included)
- cudgy 3y ago
  “If the manager is not doing his job, it's probably time to switch teams or jobs.” You’ll be switching jobs quite a bit then.
  - gloryjulio 3y ago
    I did change jobs a few times but only for the compensation reasons. My current manager and the past managers are great. Expectations goes both ways. The companies expect the ICs to ship code, and the ICs can expect to work with competent managers. Pay attention when selecting your team.
  - pg_1234 3y ago
    Don't think of it as switching jobs a lot. Think of it as still searching for the right job, funded by the employers who fail.
    - nathants 3y ago
      many of the truths we cling to, a certain point of view.
  - eschneider 3y ago
    Eh...not so much. There are definitely good managers out there. If you're a strong IC and you have reasonable expectations on what you need for support, it's usually not _that_ hard to identify a good manager when interviewing.
- metalforever 3y ago
  This is a separate issue . I’m talking about corralling tech leads from different teams to sign off on an architecture or initiative .