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> We could be helping the poor when we're still too busy discussing race and ethnicity. Why not both? I expect you'd find the cross-section of people who want

> We could be helping the poor when we're still too busy discussing race and ethnicity. Why not both? I expect you'd find the cross-section of people who want to, say, give black people better medical outcomes, and those who support helping the homeless and poor is quite large. I feel like "what about the poor" reliability shows up when discussing helping brown people, but as soon as something is designed to help the poor the same politicians show up to condem it as entitlements or socialism. I've seen no evidence to suggest that anyone trying to better minority outcomes has ever actually distracted from implementing programs to help the poor.

swagasaurus-rex 3y ago
What do you think should be done to help underprivileged races? The focus on race breeds inaction because we insist something must be done before we have any idea how to solve it. Focusing on minorities isn’t helpful either because minorities includes demographics that are doing quite well.
- Volundr 3y ago
  Well for example we already discussed that black people have worse health outcomes, we could perhaps study why that is and focus on fixing those things, ex through outreach programs. Assume we can fix poverty entirely. We already live in a world where, accounting for income, black people have worse health outcomes than whites. Why do you assume helping poor people will fix that? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume we'd now love in a world where no one is poor , and black people still are underserved by our healthcare system? How do you propose fixing it if we can't acknowledge the racial disparities? > The focus on race breeds inaction because we insist something must be done before we have any idea how to solve it. Bull. We aren't unable to implement programs help the poor because people dare mention race. Plenty of people are trying to push for programs to help the poor regardless of race. It's not the people who acknowledge that black people are more likely to be poor standing in the way.
  - swagasaurus-rex 3y ago
    > study why that is and focus on fixing those things, ex through outreach programs. This isn't a solution, it's passing the buck along.
    - Volundr 3y ago
      Outreach programs can't be part of the solution? Why not? The suggestion was based on studies that found a high amount of distrust of the medical system.

swagasaurus-rex 3y ago

What do you think should be done to help underprivileged races? The focus on race breeds inaction because we insist something must be done before we have any idea how to solve it. Focusing on minorities isn’t helpful either because minorities includes demographics that are doing quite well.

Volundr 3y ago
Well for example we already discussed that black people have worse health outcomes, we could perhaps study why that is and focus on fixing those things, ex through outreach programs. Assume we can fix poverty entirely. We already live in a world where, accounting for income, black people have worse health outcomes than whites. Why do you assume helping poor people will fix that? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume we'd now love in a world where no one is poor , and black people still are underserved by our healthcare system? How do you propose fixing it if we can't acknowledge the racial disparities? > The focus on race breeds inaction because we insist something must be done before we have any idea how to solve it. Bull. We aren't unable to implement programs help the poor because people dare mention race. Plenty of people are trying to push for programs to help the poor regardless of race. It's not the people who acknowledge that black people are more likely to be poor standing in the way.
- swagasaurus-rex 3y ago
  > study why that is and focus on fixing those things, ex through outreach programs. This isn't a solution, it's passing the buck along.
  - Volundr 3y ago
    Outreach programs can't be part of the solution? Why not? The suggestion was based on studies that found a high amount of distrust of the medical system.