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You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone.

by xwdv 3y ago

telotortium 3y ago
> You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone. I wouldn't want to be stuck away from home on a flight without some physical ID. Also don't want to completely rely on Apple Pay to buy anything (not to mention that some stores still don't take Apple Pay).
- xwdv 3y ago
  First of all, contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports, you can go through another process to have your identity verified, it takes longer but it’s trivial. Second, any place that doesnt take Apple Pay is not a place you should do business at. Even lowly kiosks and vending machines accept Apple Pay now. The places that are NOT accepting Apple Pay are a red flag, they are doing something nefarious by holding onto the old system of credit card processing (there are benefits and incentives to use contact less payments and places that refuse are actively missing out for a reason, there is literally no good reason to not take Apple Pay).
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    The world is a big place.
  - alistairSH 3y ago
    I don't need physical ID to get into the UK or EU? That's news to me. And expecting ApplePay to be available everywhere? That's such a laughably US-centric (or maybe EU-centric) worldview.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports Guessing that's a US specific thing? Unsure if that'd work for an Australian travelling around though, and I'd personally really rather not risk it going wrong. :)
    - jen729w 3y ago
      You don’t need ID to travel domestically in Australia. Or do you mean ‘an Australian travelling around [in the USA]’?
      - justinclift 3y ago
        Yeah, I meant overseas. :)
    - mattpallissard 3y ago
      You don't need your ID card in the US, but you still need to prove who you are. Without it they'll ask you questions and try and look you up somehow. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification > In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint. You will be subject to additional screening, to include a patdown and screening of carry-on property.
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  - ClassyJacket 3y ago
    And how do i use Apple Pay when my phone is flat?
    - lmm 3y ago
      With a standard USB charger that you can find anywhere, because what kind of ridiculous consumer-hostile company would use a non-standard charging port oh wait.
alistairSH 3y ago
You don't? Where do you keep your driver's license, credit cards, etc? I don't have a full bifold/trifold, but do have a small card holder for IDs and CCs. And then there's the passport and any other important documentation. That stuff is pretty much always in either my carry-on or a jacket pocket (which is usually also in the overhead). Yeah, keeping my cell on my person probably avoids 80%-90% of the annoyance, but you aren't getting through customs or security without a physical ID in most places.
- comex 3y ago
  Not the parent poster, but I carry that stuff in a pocket of the backpack I take around pretty much everywhere. On planes it's a carry-on. I certainly wouldn't be happy losing it in an emergency, but oh well, not really something I optimize for.
justinclift 3y ago
Meh, I barely use my phone. It's mainly used as a 2FA, and (rarely) for communication.
ClassyJacket 3y ago
Yes, I have a driver's license and bank card. Do you not have ANY form of identification? How do you do things that require it?
- xwdv 3y ago
  Most of the time I don’t carry any ID. My drivers license stays in the car where it belongs. I don’t buy packs of cigarettes or alcohol. It’s fine.

You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone.

by xwdv 3y ago

You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone.

> You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone. I wouldn't want to be stuck away from home on a flight without some physical ID. Also don't want to completely rely on Apple Pay to buy anything (not to mention that some stores still don't take Apple Pay).

xwdv 3y ago
First of all, contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports, you can go through another process to have your identity verified, it takes longer but it’s trivial. Second, any place that doesnt take Apple Pay is not a place you should do business at. Even lowly kiosks and vending machines accept Apple Pay now. The places that are NOT accepting Apple Pay are a red flag, they are doing something nefarious by holding onto the old system of credit card processing (there are benefits and incentives to use contact less payments and places that refuse are actively missing out for a reason, there is literally no good reason to not take Apple Pay).
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  The world is a big place.
- alistairSH 3y ago
  I don't need physical ID to get into the UK or EU? That's news to me. And expecting ApplePay to be available everywhere? That's such a laughably US-centric (or maybe EU-centric) worldview.
- justinclift 3y ago
  > contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports Guessing that's a US specific thing? Unsure if that'd work for an Australian travelling around though, and I'd personally really rather not risk it going wrong. :)
  - jen729w 3y ago
    You don’t need ID to travel domestically in Australia. Or do you mean ‘an Australian travelling around [in the USA]’?
    - justinclift 3y ago
      Yeah, I meant overseas. :)
  - mattpallissard 3y ago
    You don't need your ID card in the US, but you still need to prove who you are. Without it they'll ask you questions and try and look you up somehow. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification > In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete an identity verification process which includes collecting information such as your name, current address, and other personal information to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint. You will be subject to additional screening, to include a patdown and screening of carry-on property.
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- ClassyJacket 3y ago
  And how do i use Apple Pay when my phone is flat?
  - lmm 3y ago
    With a standard USB charger that you can find anywhere, because what kind of ridiculous consumer-hostile company would use a non-standard charging port oh wait.

alistairSH 3y ago

You don't? Where do you keep your driver's license, credit cards, etc? I don't have a full bifold/trifold, but do have a small card holder for IDs and CCs. And then there's the passport and any other important documentation. That stuff is pretty much always in either my carry-on or a jacket pocket (which is usually also in the overhead). Yeah, keeping my cell on my person probably avoids 80%-90% of the annoyance, but you aren't getting through customs or security without a physical ID in most places.

comex 3y ago
Not the parent poster, but I carry that stuff in a pocket of the backpack I take around pretty much everywhere. On planes it's a carry-on. I certainly wouldn't be happy losing it in an emergency, but oh well, not really something I optimize for.

justinclift 3y ago

Meh, I barely use my phone. It's mainly used as a 2FA, and (rarely) for communication.

ClassyJacket 3y ago

Yes, I have a driver's license and bank card. Do you not have ANY form of identification? How do you do things that require it?

xwdv 3y ago
Most of the time I don’t carry any ID. My drivers license stays in the car where it belongs. I don’t buy packs of cigarettes or alcohol. It’s fine.