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> I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War Two. I didn't say they were good, but I am not sure if they were much wo

> I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War Two. I didn't say they were good, but I am not sure if they were much worse than soviets and chinese, who received all benefits of winners and were considered as good guys right after ww2.

lostlogin 3y ago
> were considered as good guys right after ww2. That’s mostly true but it was a marriage of convenience and did not last long. Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946, only a year after the war ended. Relations were getting frosty much earlier and Churchill’s opposition to communism long predated the war. ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/the-sinews-of-peace/ https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-el... https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras/the-creeds-of-the-devil-churchill-between-the-two-totalitarianisms-1917-1945-2-of-3/#:~:text=I%20will%20not%20pretend%20that,ism%2C%20I%20would%20choose%20Communism https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras....
- ImHereToVote 3y ago
  He would if he was Jewish.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    That’s a rough choice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_U...
    - ImHereToVote 3y ago
      Take a step back and touch some grass.
      - wiseowise 3y ago
        What a nice argument.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946 he was out of power at that time: retired politician who lost elections. His opinion was his personal and didn't represent any government policies. > ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. at that time yes, communists spilled much more blood than nazis.

lostlogin 3y ago

> were considered as good guys right after ww2. That’s mostly true but it was a marriage of convenience and did not last long. Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946, only a year after the war ended. Relations were getting frosty much earlier and Churchill’s opposition to communism long predated the war. ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/the-sinews-of-peace/ https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-el... https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras/the-creeds-of-the-devil-churchill-between-the-two-totalitarianisms-1917-1945-2-of-3/#:~:text=I%20will%20not%20pretend%20that,ism%2C%20I%20would%20choose%20Communism https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras....

ImHereToVote 3y ago
He would if he was Jewish.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  That’s a rough choice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_U...
  - ImHereToVote 3y ago
    Take a step back and touch some grass.
    - wiseowise 3y ago
      What a nice argument.
riku_iki 3y ago
> Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946 he was out of power at that time: retired politician who lost elections. His opinion was his personal and didn't represent any government policies. > ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. at that time yes, communists spilled much more blood than nazis.