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The war winner does get to do a lot of historical revisionism. That said, I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War T

The war winner does get to do a lot of historical revisionism. That said, I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War Two. The sides in that war ranged from ‘Bad’ to ‘Very Bad’ in my opinion.

riku_iki 3y ago
> I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War Two. I didn't say they were good, but I am not sure if they were much worse than soviets and chinese, who received all benefits of winners and were considered as good guys right after ww2.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  > were considered as good guys right after ww2. That’s mostly true but it was a marriage of convenience and did not last long. Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946, only a year after the war ended. Relations were getting frosty much earlier and Churchill’s opposition to communism long predated the war. ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/the-sinews-of-peace/ https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-el... https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras/the-creeds-of-the-devil-churchill-between-the-two-totalitarianisms-1917-1945-2-of-3/#:~:text=I%20will%20not%20pretend%20that,ism%2C%20I%20would%20choose%20Communism https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras....
  - ImHereToVote 3y ago
    He would if he was Jewish.
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      That’s a rough choice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_U...
      - ImHereToVote 3y ago
        Take a step back and touch some grass.
        wiseowise 3y ago
        What a nice argument.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946 he was out of power at that time: retired politician who lost elections. His opinion was his personal and didn't represent any government policies. > ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. at that time yes, communists spilled much more blood than nazis.

riku_iki 3y ago

> I’d be interested in hearing the argument that Germany was the good guy in World War Two. I didn't say they were good, but I am not sure if they were much worse than soviets and chinese, who received all benefits of winners and were considered as good guys right after ww2.

lostlogin 3y ago
> were considered as good guys right after ww2. That’s mostly true but it was a marriage of convenience and did not last long. Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946, only a year after the war ended. Relations were getting frosty much earlier and Churchill’s opposition to communism long predated the war. ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/the-sinews-of-peace/ https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-el... https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras/the-creeds-of-the-devil-churchill-between-the-two-totalitarianisms-1917-1945-2-of-3/#:~:text=I%20will%20not%20pretend%20that,ism%2C%20I%20would%20choose%20Communism https://winstonchurchill.org/publications/finest-hour-extras....
- ImHereToVote 3y ago
  He would if he was Jewish.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    That’s a rough choice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_U...
    - ImHereToVote 3y ago
      Take a step back and touch some grass.
      - wiseowise 3y ago
        What a nice argument.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > Churchill’s ‘Iron Curtain’ speech was in March, 1946 he was out of power at that time: retired politician who lost elections. His opinion was his personal and didn't represent any government policies. > ‘I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between Communism and Nazi-ism, I would choose Communism.’ April 1937. at that time yes, communists spilled much more blood than nazis.