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Interesting. So products that use AI generation as pet of an API, say using a diffusion model to generate different stylings for the walls and textures for a le

by wincy 3y ago

Interesting. So products that use AI generation as pet of an API, say using a diffusion model to generate different stylings for the walls and textures for a level creator, would fall under this? Guess it’s time to ask for forgiveness rather than ask for permission and not let Valve know where my art assets are coming from in my web-based API. If I were making a game I’d just lie and lie at this point.

axus 3y ago
AI code generation is OK though! Because they can't detect it? It's cool to see the development of new ethical standards in response to new technology. If I could get an option for ethically-sourced AI, which only uses public-domain art / text / code for training, that'd be nice.
smoldesu 3y ago
For a very long time music producers would pirate their samples, plugins and presets. The idea was that nobody could tell how illegal these tools were in the finished product, so there was no reason not to steal. It was genuinely the gold standard for a while, and even established artists like Diplo, Porter Robinson and Kanye West were caught pirating content en-masse. Nowadays there isn't the same attitude so much. Many people still pirate sounds, but skeptic listeners will sometimes ask musicians to show off their project files to embarass them over how many pirated Cymatics drums they use and their version of Sylenth licensed to "RuTorrent". It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened today. AI-assisted development will take off for a while, and then people will ask self conscious questions like "nice art, who's your art director?"
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  > Many people still pirate sounds, but skeptic listeners will sometimes ask musicians to show off their project files And the musicians comply? Weird.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    I mean, not always. It's hard to be super secretive in a live situation, but I'd wager many musicians have successfully hidden their pirated plugins. A lot of people have been caught anyways. Steve Aoki accidentally left a visibly pirated Sylenth VST in a promo vid, Porter Robinson and Skrillex both got caught with pirated plugins during track breakdowns, Kanye West posted a video with 30 tabs of The Pirate Bay open to download Logic Pro... the list goes on. It was extremely common in the early days of digital music production (and still is today, to an extent), but the backlash has pushed most legit production houses to legit licensed software.
mavu 3y ago
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by wincy 3y ago

axus 3y ago

AI code generation is OK though! Because they can't detect it? It's cool to see the development of new ethical standards in response to new technology. If I could get an option for ethically-sourced AI, which only uses public-domain art / text / code for training, that'd be nice.

smoldesu 3y ago

For a very long time music producers would pirate their samples, plugins and presets. The idea was that nobody could tell how illegal these tools were in the finished product, so there was no reason not to steal. It was genuinely the gold standard for a while, and even established artists like Diplo, Porter Robinson and Kanye West were caught pirating content en-masse. Nowadays there isn't the same attitude so much. Many people still pirate sounds, but skeptic listeners will sometimes ask musicians to show off their project files to embarass them over how many pirated Cymatics drums they use and their version of Sylenth licensed to "RuTorrent". It wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened today. AI-assisted development will take off for a while, and then people will ask self conscious questions like "nice art, who's your art director?"

sebzim4500 3y ago
> Many people still pirate sounds, but skeptic listeners will sometimes ask musicians to show off their project files And the musicians comply? Weird.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  I mean, not always. It's hard to be super secretive in a live situation, but I'd wager many musicians have successfully hidden their pirated plugins. A lot of people have been caught anyways. Steve Aoki accidentally left a visibly pirated Sylenth VST in a promo vid, Porter Robinson and Skrillex both got caught with pirated plugins during track breakdowns, Kanye West posted a video with 30 tabs of The Pirate Bay open to download Logic Pro... the list goes on. It was extremely common in the early days of digital music production (and still is today, to an extent), but the backlash has pushed most legit production houses to legit licensed software.

mavu 3y ago

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