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> At this time, we are declining to distribute your game since it’s unclear if the underlying AI tech used to create the assets has sufficient rights to the tra

> At this time, we are declining to distribute your game since it’s unclear if the underlying AI tech used to create the assets has sufficient rights to the training data. This seems like a completely fair response from Valve. On top of that, they gave them notice and an opportunity to remove the offending content (with that content explicitly called out) and offered to refund if that was not a viable option. If this was an iOS/Android app, they would have just been told to pound sand and swallow the dev fee. Good on Valve for not lapsing communication here.

A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
Organic only content -- here we come. Not that it bothers me, but I feel oddly validated that appears to be the path taken. It makes sense, even from just purely 'we can't review it all' perspective.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Well, it's not like they're The App Store and controlling everything you can install. You can still put AI-assisted software on any machine that can install Steam, they just don't want to deal with the legal implications of hosting the dubiously-generated content themselves.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  I think it's fine. You have to have rights to do AI things with the content of your datasets. No more "download the whole internet" or "create image generation models from the scraped contents of a stock image provider". I think it's going to turn into a new class of copyright permissions. Along the lines of > thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind More like > License is hereby given for the consumption of these contents by human minds
slimsag 3y ago
It sounds like they even looked into the specific AI the gamedev said they used: > we reviewed [Game Name Here] and took our time to better understand the AI tech used to create it. And offered a refund on the $100 app submission credit: > App credits are usually non-refundable, but we’d like to make an exception here and offer you a refund. Please confirm and we’ll proceed. Seems incredibly reasonable.

A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago

Organic only content -- here we come. Not that it bothers me, but I feel oddly validated that appears to be the path taken. It makes sense, even from just purely 'we can't review it all' perspective.

smoldesu 3y ago
Well, it's not like they're The App Store and controlling everything you can install. You can still put AI-assisted software on any machine that can install Steam, they just don't want to deal with the legal implications of hosting the dubiously-generated content themselves.
colechristensen 3y ago
I think it's fine. You have to have rights to do AI things with the content of your datasets. No more "download the whole internet" or "create image generation models from the scraped contents of a stock image provider". I think it's going to turn into a new class of copyright permissions. Along the lines of > thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind More like > License is hereby given for the consumption of these contents by human minds

slimsag 3y ago

It sounds like they even looked into the specific AI the gamedev said they used: > we reviewed [Game Name Here] and took our time to better understand the AI tech used to create it. And offered a refund on the $100 app submission credit: > App credits are usually non-refundable, but we’d like to make an exception here and offer you a refund. Please confirm and we’ll proceed. Seems incredibly reasonable.