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What's with them putting "a hold" on all of the passengers possessions? Like, that's leaving people without their wallets (aka id, money) and so on. Sounds li

What's with them putting "a hold" on all of the passengers possessions? Like, that's leaving people without their wallets (aka id, money) and so on. Sounds like they may not get it back for an unknown period of time (weeks, months?) either.

MSFT_Edging 3y ago
I understand "don't take any bags as we deplane down the emergency slide", but the hold is weird. I'd probably get arrested in the process of being like "No the bag with my important possessions I keep next to me on purpose is coming with me" They were probably rushed off due to being unsure about fire hazards, and people digging through carryons for wallets and stuff would probably slow that down a lot, considering how long a normal deplaning takes.
- kylehotchkiss 3y ago
  The right time to grab wallet was after the pilot explained the issue and next steps.
  - MSFT_Edging 3y ago
    Probably didn't want everyone standing up in the aisle messing with the overheads all at once.
  - chasd00 3y ago
    As soon as they said something was wrong I’d be working to get any important work off my laptop and onto my phone or any other alternative storage I could think of. Also, wallet/passport/keys etc come out of my backpack and into my pockets.
    - Symbiote 3y ago
      You should do this before you leave for the airport. It's much more likely that your laptop is stolen or accidentally taken by another passenger.
fredoralive 3y ago
They probably want to make sure the plane is undisturbed before it can be examined by crash investigators and so on? There's probably a bit of a safety and practicality aspect of accessing a plane with a collapsed gear.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Sure, they can "want" whatever they err... want. Doesn't seem like they should get their way when it comes to people's id and other personal docs, if that's what's really going on. Potentially stranding international passengers without their passport (etc) is really not on.
kylehotchkiss 3y ago
Untold best practice: Keep your phone, passport, wallet etc on your body always while on a flight. Imagine being stuck in this situation in a foreign country where they'll keep you at the airport for days waiting to figure out how to get you back home without a passport. Your renters/homeowners insurance may cover anything left on the plane that is lost and not covered by the airline.
- ryanwaggoner 3y ago
  Eh, the chances of ever having this impact you are incredibly remote. And yes, the “cost” of following this guideline is low, until you consider that you could have similar rules for hundreds of other incredibly rare situations, none of which will ever happen to you. Seems exhausting for no benefit. I’ll just continue to keep my stuff in my backpack under the seat, and I can grab it if needed. Or not, and I’m sure that’ll be fine too. Also, there’s no indication that anyone who left the plane without their ID or passport is just being left in the terminal for days, making this guideline even less valuable.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > there’s no indication that anyone who left the plane without their ID or passport is just being left in the terminal for days Because US Airlines have such a good reputation for taking care of their stranded passengers? /s
- TobyTheDog123 3y ago
  Also push everything up to GitHub before deplaning starts :^) (or always bring a large USB)
- lupyro 3y ago
  I lost my passport while in the United Kingdom and had no other identifying documentation with me. The US embassy had me fill out a ~10 question sheet of paper and then "checked me out". 30 minutes later they said I was "good" and would have a new passport delivered to me in 48 hours. UK/US relations are pretty good. I'm sure this situation could have been a lot worse in more unfriendly countries but I'm still shocked this solution was even possible.
xwdv 3y ago
You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone.
- telotortium 3y ago
  > You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone. I wouldn't want to be stuck away from home on a flight without some physical ID. Also don't want to completely rely on Apple Pay to buy anything (not to mention that some stores still don't take Apple Pay).
  - xwdv 3y ago
    First of all, contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports, you can go through another process to have your identity verified, it takes longer but it’s trivial. Second, any place that doesnt take Apple Pay is not a place you should do business at. Even lowly kiosks and vending machines accept Apple Pay now. The places that are NOT accepting Apple Pay are a red flag, they are doing something nefarious by holding onto the old system of credit card processing (there are benefits and incentives to use contact less payments and places that refuse are actively missing out for a reason, there is literally no good reason to not take Apple Pay).
    - inemesitaffia 3y ago
      The world is a big place.
    - alistairSH 3y ago
      I don't need physical ID to get into the UK or EU? That's news to me. And expecting ApplePay to be available everywhere? That's such a laughably US-centric (or maybe EU-centric) worldview.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      > contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports Guessing that's a US specific thing? Unsure if that'd work for an Australian travelling around though, and I'd personally really rather not risk it going wrong. :)
phendrenad2 3y ago
You laugh but what if a turkey sandwich caused all of this?

MSFT_Edging 3y ago

I understand "don't take any bags as we deplane down the emergency slide", but the hold is weird. I'd probably get arrested in the process of being like "No the bag with my important possessions I keep next to me on purpose is coming with me" They were probably rushed off due to being unsure about fire hazards, and people digging through carryons for wallets and stuff would probably slow that down a lot, considering how long a normal deplaning takes.

kylehotchkiss 3y ago
The right time to grab wallet was after the pilot explained the issue and next steps.
- MSFT_Edging 3y ago
  Probably didn't want everyone standing up in the aisle messing with the overheads all at once.
- chasd00 3y ago
  As soon as they said something was wrong I’d be working to get any important work off my laptop and onto my phone or any other alternative storage I could think of. Also, wallet/passport/keys etc come out of my backpack and into my pockets.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    You should do this before you leave for the airport. It's much more likely that your laptop is stolen or accidentally taken by another passenger.

fredoralive 3y ago

They probably want to make sure the plane is undisturbed before it can be examined by crash investigators and so on? There's probably a bit of a safety and practicality aspect of accessing a plane with a collapsed gear.

justinclift 3y ago
Sure, they can "want" whatever they err... want. Doesn't seem like they should get their way when it comes to people's id and other personal docs, if that's what's really going on. Potentially stranding international passengers without their passport (etc) is really not on.

kylehotchkiss 3y ago

Untold best practice: Keep your phone, passport, wallet etc on your body always while on a flight. Imagine being stuck in this situation in a foreign country where they'll keep you at the airport for days waiting to figure out how to get you back home without a passport. Your renters/homeowners insurance may cover anything left on the plane that is lost and not covered by the airline.

ryanwaggoner 3y ago
Eh, the chances of ever having this impact you are incredibly remote. And yes, the “cost” of following this guideline is low, until you consider that you could have similar rules for hundreds of other incredibly rare situations, none of which will ever happen to you. Seems exhausting for no benefit. I’ll just continue to keep my stuff in my backpack under the seat, and I can grab it if needed. Or not, and I’m sure that’ll be fine too. Also, there’s no indication that anyone who left the plane without their ID or passport is just being left in the terminal for days, making this guideline even less valuable.
- justinclift 3y ago
  > there’s no indication that anyone who left the plane without their ID or passport is just being left in the terminal for days Because US Airlines have such a good reputation for taking care of their stranded passengers? /s
TobyTheDog123 3y ago
Also push everything up to GitHub before deplaning starts :^) (or always bring a large USB)
lupyro 3y ago
I lost my passport while in the United Kingdom and had no other identifying documentation with me. The US embassy had me fill out a ~10 question sheet of paper and then "checked me out". 30 minutes later they said I was "good" and would have a new passport delivered to me in 48 hours. UK/US relations are pretty good. I'm sure this situation could have been a lot worse in more unfriendly countries but I'm still shocked this solution was even possible.

xwdv 3y ago

You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone.

telotortium 3y ago
> You guys have wallets? Seems like the only possession you’d really need to do anything useful is your phone. I wouldn't want to be stuck away from home on a flight without some physical ID. Also don't want to completely rely on Apple Pay to buy anything (not to mention that some stores still don't take Apple Pay).
- xwdv 3y ago
  First of all, contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports, you can go through another process to have your identity verified, it takes longer but it’s trivial. Second, any place that doesnt take Apple Pay is not a place you should do business at. Even lowly kiosks and vending machines accept Apple Pay now. The places that are NOT accepting Apple Pay are a red flag, they are doing something nefarious by holding onto the old system of credit card processing (there are benefits and incentives to use contact less payments and places that refuse are actively missing out for a reason, there is literally no good reason to not take Apple Pay).
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    The world is a big place.
  - alistairSH 3y ago
    I don't need physical ID to get into the UK or EU? That's news to me. And expecting ApplePay to be available everywhere? That's such a laughably US-centric (or maybe EU-centric) worldview.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > contrary to popular belief you don’t need physical ID at airports Guessing that's a US specific thing? Unsure if that'd work for an Australian travelling around though, and I'd personally really rather not risk it going wrong. :)

phendrenad2 3y ago

You laugh but what if a turkey sandwich caused all of this?