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> If you have an Asian Medical Doctor, they are AAA. If you have a multiple minority Medical Doctor, they are not necessarily AAA, they could be As. > Which on

> If you have an Asian Medical Doctor, they are AAA. If you have a multiple minority Medical Doctor, they are not necessarily AAA, they could be As. > Which one do you want to do brain surgery on you? I have no strong opinion on affirmative action but this is a dishonest way to frame this topic. Affirmative action doesn't mean an institution can produce unqualified doctors. Both doctors should've gone through same examinations at medical schools, studied same textbooks and have similar training.

ekam 3y ago
Taking the same texts and having the same books mean nothing since the point of tests is the grades so what matters is if they had the same grades or not
vxNsr 3y ago
Look at grade averages for med schools over time. Also if the school is willing to bend their standards on admissions, who’s to say they won’t bend their standards on grading? It’s also almost impossible to get fired from a residency program once you get in, graduation rates are near 95%… I already don’t trust MD’s compared to DO’s because MD schools nearly all got rid of grading and all classes are pass/fail which encourages doing just well enough to pass. DO schools meanwhile continue to grade students which encourages excellence.
- cbm-vic-20 3y ago
  > who’s to say they won’t bend their standards on grading? Schools that do this will lose their accreditation.
  - Exoristos 3y ago
    Schools that _don't_ do this will lose accreditation soon.
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    Wishful thinking. The Physician club is one of back scratching, not critical evaluation. The Physician->AMA->ACGME->Physician pipe benefits everyone involved. What's the worst thing that could happen? Malpractice lawsuits have doctors win 50% of the time when there is strong evidence, and 90% of the time when there is weak evidence. The rich created a cartel and the feedback loop is already here.
- crackercrews 3y ago
  IIRC some med schools are getting rid of grades in favor of pass/fail. This makes it hard to tell which students are great and which ones barely passed.

ekam 3y ago

Taking the same texts and having the same books mean nothing since the point of tests is the grades so what matters is if they had the same grades or not

vxNsr 3y ago

Look at grade averages for med schools over time. Also if the school is willing to bend their standards on admissions, who’s to say they won’t bend their standards on grading? It’s also almost impossible to get fired from a residency program once you get in, graduation rates are near 95%… I already don’t trust MD’s compared to DO’s because MD schools nearly all got rid of grading and all classes are pass/fail which encourages doing just well enough to pass. DO schools meanwhile continue to grade students which encourages excellence.

cbm-vic-20 3y ago
> who’s to say they won’t bend their standards on grading? Schools that do this will lose their accreditation.
- Exoristos 3y ago
  Schools that _don't_ do this will lose accreditation soon.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Wishful thinking. The Physician club is one of back scratching, not critical evaluation. The Physician->AMA->ACGME->Physician pipe benefits everyone involved. What's the worst thing that could happen? Malpractice lawsuits have doctors win 50% of the time when there is strong evidence, and 90% of the time when there is weak evidence. The rich created a cartel and the feedback loop is already here.
crackercrews 3y ago
IIRC some med schools are getting rid of grades in favor of pass/fail. This makes it hard to tell which students are great and which ones barely passed.