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Vscode feels blitz fast. Which apps have you tried that feel slow?

klodolph 3y ago
VS Code is reasonably fast but it’s somewhat an exception in the world of slow Electron apps. I’ve seen performance issues with Slack and Discord. Spotify isn’t Electron, it’s CEF, but it has the same problems. The parts of Apple’s Music app which run inside the web view are noticeably worse than the other parts.
- rektide 3y ago
  These two apps seem to be the number one and two most popular desktop-packaged webapps & they have done immeasurable damage to the perception of the web as a technology. It's cemented the perception of web desktop tech in many people's mind & I question whether it's possible to de-infect what has become a quite strongly held dogmatism. There's few apps broadly actually uses these days, so the opportunity is also troublingly slim. I want to ask, what are the contestible assertions, what would change your mind? But even for me it's hard to imagine finding sufficient leverage, having enough examples, to really challenge the negative perceptions. For what it's worth, discord load time is a bit obnoxious but I've found it to be pretty performant once loaded, and I'm a fairly intense user who is on many dozens of servers.
  - klodolph 3y ago
    Framing it as “dogmatism” is unfair. Most people just try to see what the various tradeoffs are between alternatives. For desktop apps, we’re talking about Electron versus, say, Qt, Cocoa, WPF, or whatever. The observation that web packaged apps are typically slower and typically have worse UIs is probably not being contested here. Likewise, the advantages of Electron for cutting costs and shipping apps faster is probably not being contested. I think the only real question people have is, “Do you care?” I used the desktop version of Discord for a few years. It seems like—well, a real piece of shit, to be honest. So I use the web client now. Performance is only really a problem when you scroll around, deep in the history of a channel. My point of reference is apps like Adium.
pc86 3y ago
Not compared to literally any non-Electron text editor. It's barely faster than native full IDEs.
- recursive 3y ago
  Any? No. It's pretty comparable to Sublime on this machine. There are some operations where VSC is even clearly faster.
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VS Code is reasonably fast but it’s somewhat an exception in the world of slow Electron apps. I’ve seen performance issues with Slack and Discord. Spotify isn’t Electron, it’s CEF, but it has the same problems. The parts of Apple’s Music app which run inside the web view are noticeably worse than the other parts.

rektide 3y ago
These two apps seem to be the number one and two most popular desktop-packaged webapps & they have done immeasurable damage to the perception of the web as a technology. It's cemented the perception of web desktop tech in many people's mind & I question whether it's possible to de-infect what has become a quite strongly held dogmatism. There's few apps broadly actually uses these days, so the opportunity is also troublingly slim. I want to ask, what are the contestible assertions, what would change your mind? But even for me it's hard to imagine finding sufficient leverage, having enough examples, to really challenge the negative perceptions. For what it's worth, discord load time is a bit obnoxious but I've found it to be pretty performant once loaded, and I'm a fairly intense user who is on many dozens of servers.
- klodolph 3y ago
  Framing it as “dogmatism” is unfair. Most people just try to see what the various tradeoffs are between alternatives. For desktop apps, we’re talking about Electron versus, say, Qt, Cocoa, WPF, or whatever. The observation that web packaged apps are typically slower and typically have worse UIs is probably not being contested here. Likewise, the advantages of Electron for cutting costs and shipping apps faster is probably not being contested. I think the only real question people have is, “Do you care?” I used the desktop version of Discord for a few years. It seems like—well, a real piece of shit, to be honest. So I use the web client now. Performance is only really a problem when you scroll around, deep in the history of a channel. My point of reference is apps like Adium.

pc86 3y ago

Not compared to literally any non-Electron text editor. It's barely faster than native full IDEs.

recursive 3y ago
Any? No. It's pretty comparable to Sublime on this machine. There are some operations where VSC is even clearly faster.

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