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I've been using it since the beta, and am still paying for it. I shared your concerns at first, but in practice I've never run into the limit. In fact, checking

I've been using it since the beta, and am still paying for it. I shared your concerns at first, but in practice I've never run into the limit. In fact, checking my history, I've never actually gotten close to the limit. I pay $10/mo for 1500 searches, and most months I do less than 500 searches. I don't think the search quality is anything special. I have never figured out how to use Lenses, and I don't even care to try them again. I like it for privacy, and I like that you can give weight to different websites, and even block ones you don't want to see again. I know there are Google plugins for blocking sources as well. I don't have any tips. I think Kagi is about as good as DuckDuckGo, and the advantage it has is that it costs money. I'm at the point where I don't even trust a nominally privacy-focused search engine like DDG not to drift into the unethical. For some reason—maybe naivety—I think a company that takes money in exchange guaranteeing my privacy is theoretically more reliable, if only because it would be too audacious to outright lie about that.

PartiallyTyped 3y ago
This is my usage: Jun 2023 1171 May 2023 822 Apr 2023 2451 Mar 2023 3700 Feb 2023 3632 Jan 2023 5664 Dec 2022 1245 I found that most of my searches are in my phone actually.
- barbazoo 3y ago
  > Jan 2023 5664 That's 183 searches per day, assuming 8 hours of sleep that's 11.5 searches per hour, that's roughly a search every 5 minutes. That's a busy month :)
  - PartiallyTyped 3y ago
    I was preparing for my defense :D
philwelch 3y ago
How are you paying for it? Can’t they trace your searches back to you via your payment method?
- karaterobot 3y ago
  I'm sure they can, but until new information comes to light, I'm trusting that their business model makes it against their interests to do that.
  - philwelch 3y ago
    I would be more inclined to trust them if they had a warrant canary. I can’t seem to find one.
    - freediver 3y ago
      There is one here: https://kagi.com/privacy#warrant-canary https://kagi.com/privacy#warrant-canary
      - philwelch 3y ago
        That’s a good start, though it should really be dated. Thanks!
        freediver 3y ago
        We wanted to keep the presentation consitent, and all relevant dates are posted in the changelog at the bottom of the post.
    - karaterobot 3y ago
      Sounded like they claim to not store identifying information along with searches at all, which is the biggest privacy concern to me.
      - philwelch 3y ago
        They can claim what they want; the fact remains that I have to trust them. If I use Brave or DDG or even Google, I can do things to obfuscate my identity from them. Kagi is the only search engine that requires users to authenticate, and ties that authentication to a method of payment that can be trivially tied to the user's identity. As far as the user is able to verify, that makes them the least private search engine. Even if they're telling the truth, if they receive a national security warrant, they'll start collecting that information secretly. Hence my interest in a warrant canary.

PartiallyTyped 3y ago

This is my usage: Jun 2023 1171 May 2023 822 Apr 2023 2451 Mar 2023 3700 Feb 2023 3632 Jan 2023 5664 Dec 2022 1245 I found that most of my searches are in my phone actually.

barbazoo 3y ago
> Jan 2023 5664 That's 183 searches per day, assuming 8 hours of sleep that's 11.5 searches per hour, that's roughly a search every 5 minutes. That's a busy month :)
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  I was preparing for my defense :D

philwelch 3y ago

How are you paying for it? Can’t they trace your searches back to you via your payment method?

karaterobot 3y ago
I'm sure they can, but until new information comes to light, I'm trusting that their business model makes it against their interests to do that.
- philwelch 3y ago
  I would be more inclined to trust them if they had a warrant canary. I can’t seem to find one.
  - freediver 3y ago
    There is one here: https://kagi.com/privacy#warrant-canary https://kagi.com/privacy#warrant-canary
    - philwelch 3y ago
      That’s a good start, though it should really be dated. Thanks!
      - freediver 3y ago
        We wanted to keep the presentation consitent, and all relevant dates are posted in the changelog at the bottom of the post.
  - karaterobot 3y ago
    Sounded like they claim to not store identifying information along with searches at all, which is the biggest privacy concern to me.
    - philwelch 3y ago
      They can claim what they want; the fact remains that I have to trust them. If I use Brave or DDG or even Google, I can do things to obfuscate my identity from them. Kagi is the only search engine that requires users to authenticate, and ties that authentication to a method of payment that can be trivially tied to the user's identity. As far as the user is able to verify, that makes them the least private search engine. Even if they're telling the truth, if they receive a national security warrant, they'll start collecting that information secretly. Hence my interest in a warrant canary.