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I agree with the many siblings that say this news is pretty irrelevant to people who use custom ROMs, but I don't think it's realistic to say that FOSS alternat

I agree with the many siblings that say this news is pretty irrelevant to people who use custom ROMs, but I don't think it's realistic to say that FOSS alternatives exist, at least for SMS. There are multiple references in this thread to Simple SMS, but that app is not at all ready for prime time. If your carrier/ROM didn't bundle an SMS app you can live with, I think you are out of luck. I'm glad to be proved wrong though, if anyone knows of a good SMS app.

logicprog 3y ago
QKSMS is great!
- public_defender 3y ago
  I admit I passed over trying this for whatever reason. I'll try it now and report back.
- NoGravitas 3y ago
  QKSMS has a better interface than Simple SMS Messenger, but it's unmaintained, and for me, it had the same or worse problems with MMS than Simple SMS has.
  - public_defender 3y ago
    It sure looks unmaintained! Here are my problems with Simple SMS that are fixed in QKSMS: 1) Long delay updating conversation after receiving a message (>5s). 2) Date sorting broken (old messages appearing at top of queue for no reason). 3) "Failed to send" sms users experience is bad (still testing on qk). 4) MMS sender ID almost always wrong (all messages in group MMS appear to be from the same person until you examine details). 5) Sending MMS with attachment/image always fails without verbose error (still testing qk) This is pretty abysmal. Do I use the unmaintained app that fixes 3-5 of these issues, or the apparently actively developed one with all the warts? I guess this is the state of basic phone functionality in vendor-free, google-free android.
    - logicprog 3y ago
      If only Signal hadn't dropped support for SMS/MMS... It was like a major selling point!
      - public_defender 3y ago
        Not only did it completely ruin my SMS experience when this happened, it cratered my signal use as well. From my perspective, it was a really misguided choice.
gsa 3y ago
I think the need for a featured SMS app might solely be an American problem. My SMS inbox is only occasional 2fa codes and any app with basic features is good enough for me.
- public_defender 3y ago
  I think there are enough American SMS users that the issue is worth discussing. We can also have a thread about how there is no FOSS Whatsapp client. I'd enjoy that discussion as well.

logicprog 3y ago

QKSMS is great!

public_defender 3y ago
I admit I passed over trying this for whatever reason. I'll try it now and report back.
NoGravitas 3y ago
QKSMS has a better interface than Simple SMS Messenger, but it's unmaintained, and for me, it had the same or worse problems with MMS than Simple SMS has.
- public_defender 3y ago
  It sure looks unmaintained! Here are my problems with Simple SMS that are fixed in QKSMS: 1) Long delay updating conversation after receiving a message (>5s). 2) Date sorting broken (old messages appearing at top of queue for no reason). 3) "Failed to send" sms users experience is bad (still testing on qk). 4) MMS sender ID almost always wrong (all messages in group MMS appear to be from the same person until you examine details). 5) Sending MMS with attachment/image always fails without verbose error (still testing qk) This is pretty abysmal. Do I use the unmaintained app that fixes 3-5 of these issues, or the apparently actively developed one with all the warts? I guess this is the state of basic phone functionality in vendor-free, google-free android.
  - logicprog 3y ago
    If only Signal hadn't dropped support for SMS/MMS... It was like a major selling point!
    - public_defender 3y ago
      Not only did it completely ruin my SMS experience when this happened, it cratered my signal use as well. From my perspective, it was a really misguided choice.

gsa 3y ago

I think the need for a featured SMS app might solely be an American problem. My SMS inbox is only occasional 2fa codes and any app with basic features is good enough for me.

public_defender 3y ago
I think there are enough American SMS users that the issue is worth discussing. We can also have a thread about how there is no FOSS Whatsapp client. I'd enjoy that discussion as well.