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I get that people hate companies but $7 a month for unlimited video on any device with 500 hours uploaded every minute. That's a decent deal. The only drawback

I get that people hate companies but $7 a month for unlimited video on any device with 500 hours uploaded every minute. That's a decent deal. The only drawback is that you don't get Sponsorblock on smart devices. People seem to overestimate how much the average person care about online outrage. Netflix, Reddit, Twitter.. They all seem fine despite being declared dead numerous times.

guy98238710 3y ago
It's not their content though. Most people upload stuff without any intent to monetize or otherwise control it. YT, like other large sites, was built through mass-scale theft of what was supposed to be public domain works. Sure it's their servers, but then it's their fault they don't allow redistribution via third party channels.
prepend 3y ago
I don’t watch many YouTube videos. Maybe 1-5/month. And it depends on many factors so isn’t predictable. I don’t want to pay$7/month so when I do get a link I don’t get annoyed by YouTube’s UX.
est31 3y ago
I remember people saying years ago that reddit's redesign is not a problem because it has API access and you can use third party clients... The $7 is the current price, it does not reflect future changes. If the pool of potential customers is dry, they will try other means of increasing revenue, including increases of that price. They might also turn the $7 into a requirement to watch YouTube at all, and show ads anyways.
- prirun 3y ago
  > They might also turn the $7 into a requirement to watch YouTube at all, and show ads anyways. Yep. All cable channels started out ad-free. When cable was introduced, the cost was $35/mo for all channels (there were no movie channels initially), justified by not having ads.
danielEM 3y ago
I'm not entirely convinced that youtube is actually worth $7 a month. Ofc, I'm also far away from saying it is worth nothing, but not gonna pay 7USD unless I'm getting something extra (I mean content, maybe movies???) than just no ads. Otherwise once blocked will switch to other platforms, eg. https://d.tube/ https://d.tube/, vimeo, etc...
sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
>$7 a month for unlimited video on any device with 500 hours uploaded every minute. This is irrelevant. 99.9% of content is garbage and / or not relevant to me. Also, I really don't watch that much so why should I be paying ~8 EUR a month to watch a few videos without ads? Moreover, I don't earn that much, so even that amount is a noticeable loss.
- cruano 3y ago
  > 99.9% of content is garbage and / or not relevant to Then don't use it ? That's like saying you only like one show on netflix so they should give it to you for free
odessacubbage 3y ago
it kind of boils down to a question of who is the actual customer? me or advertisers? if i'm paying a subscription to youtube, then i don't want post-adpocalypse censorship & sanitization.
jraph 3y ago
I think I would pay for a respectful video service which also pays the people who make the videos. Giving money to Google though, would hurt so much! I'll consider it the day they stop the dark patterns company wide and commit to stop being ad-supported. Making the users pay for the service is a step in the right direction but I don't see them stop the ads company wide and I don't want to feed this.
- suddenclarity 3y ago
  YouTube is actually regarded quite high in terms of revenue sharing and Linus has praised them numerous times. It's for example partly (26% in 2020) why LTT have around 100 employees. YouTube do have a ton of other issues (spam, lack of support, content moderation, etc) but I don't believe revenue sharing is a big one. https://twitter.com/BobDuckNWeave/status/1613846589482598403 https://twitter.com/BobDuckNWeave/status/1613846589482598403 https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/100fmgx/linus_posted_his_earnings_for_2022_probably_only/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/100fmgx/linu...
voxadam 3y ago
When I glance at https://youtube.com/premium https://youtube.com/premium it quotes $12 a month. Are you talking about the student offer?
- missedthecue 3y ago
  Does it really change his point?
midasuni 3y ago
$7 sounds great, I’d pay that. They want £16 a month from me, that’s $20 a month.
cyberneticist 3y ago
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guy98238710 3y ago

It's not their content though. Most people upload stuff without any intent to monetize or otherwise control it. YT, like other large sites, was built through mass-scale theft of what was supposed to be public domain works. Sure it's their servers, but then it's their fault they don't allow redistribution via third party channels.

prepend 3y ago

I don’t watch many YouTube videos. Maybe 1-5/month. And it depends on many factors so isn’t predictable. I don’t want to pay$7/month so when I do get a link I don’t get annoyed by YouTube’s UX.

est31 3y ago

I remember people saying years ago that reddit's redesign is not a problem because it has API access and you can use third party clients... The $7 is the current price, it does not reflect future changes. If the pool of potential customers is dry, they will try other means of increasing revenue, including increases of that price. They might also turn the $7 into a requirement to watch YouTube at all, and show ads anyways.

prirun 3y ago
> They might also turn the $7 into a requirement to watch YouTube at all, and show ads anyways. Yep. All cable channels started out ad-free. When cable was introduced, the cost was $35/mo for all channels (there were no movie channels initially), justified by not having ads.

danielEM 3y ago

I'm not entirely convinced that youtube is actually worth $7 a month. Ofc, I'm also far away from saying it is worth nothing, but not gonna pay 7USD unless I'm getting something extra (I mean content, maybe movies???) than just no ads. Otherwise once blocked will switch to other platforms, eg. https://d.tube/ https://d.tube/, vimeo, etc...

sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago

>$7 a month for unlimited video on any device with 500 hours uploaded every minute. This is irrelevant. 99.9% of content is garbage and / or not relevant to me. Also, I really don't watch that much so why should I be paying ~8 EUR a month to watch a few videos without ads? Moreover, I don't earn that much, so even that amount is a noticeable loss.

cruano 3y ago
> 99.9% of content is garbage and / or not relevant to Then don't use it ? That's like saying you only like one show on netflix so they should give it to you for free

odessacubbage 3y ago

it kind of boils down to a question of who is the actual customer? me or advertisers? if i'm paying a subscription to youtube, then i don't want post-adpocalypse censorship & sanitization.

jraph 3y ago

I think I would pay for a respectful video service which also pays the people who make the videos. Giving money to Google though, would hurt so much! I'll consider it the day they stop the dark patterns company wide and commit to stop being ad-supported. Making the users pay for the service is a step in the right direction but I don't see them stop the ads company wide and I don't want to feed this.

suddenclarity 3y ago
YouTube is actually regarded quite high in terms of revenue sharing and Linus has praised them numerous times. It's for example partly (26% in 2020) why LTT have around 100 employees. YouTube do have a ton of other issues (spam, lack of support, content moderation, etc) but I don't believe revenue sharing is a big one. https://twitter.com/BobDuckNWeave/status/1613846589482598403 https://twitter.com/BobDuckNWeave/status/1613846589482598403 https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/100fmgx/linus_posted_his_earnings_for_2022_probably_only/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/100fmgx/linu...

voxadam 3y ago

When I glance at https://youtube.com/premium https://youtube.com/premium it quotes $12 a month. Are you talking about the student offer?

missedthecue 3y ago
Does it really change his point?

midasuni 3y ago

$7 sounds great, I’d pay that. They want £16 a month from me, that’s $20 a month.

cyberneticist 3y ago

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