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It is really sad that actual journalism has no place in today's world because the Internet has made everyone want everything for free. So everyone ends up getti

• ourlordcaffeine 3y ago
  >If they don't employ writers, then who is going to be writing the magazine? Well there is always chatGPT
  • elektrontamer 3y ago
    That's what I really fear about LLMs, good content is going to get drowned out by endless bot drivel.
    • intothemild 3y ago
      I think this wont be sustainable, like, how long til until people stop reading LLM generated content?
    • jvm___ 3y ago
      I keep re-reading and referencing this article as it lays out how the human vs AI internet landscape is likely to shake out. https://maggieappleton.com/ai-dark-forest https://maggieappleton.com/ai-dark-forest
    • pmoriarty 3y ago
      > That's what I really fear about LLMs, good content is going to get drowned out by endless bot drivel. I anticipate the opposite. Already AI content is better than crappy human writers. In the medium term AI content is going to be better than most human writers (it arguably already is in some limited cases). In the long term it may compete with the best human writers. Some humans are too full of themselves, thinking they're so exceptional, while computers are proving time and again that's not so. The evidence is starting us in the face.
      • russian-troll 3y ago
        >In the long term it may compete with the best human writers. AIs lack connection with real world. This is important if we speak about NatGeo. >The evidence is starting us in the face. AIs generate average texts. It is admittedly cool. But I think it just shows how much human drivel is out there. Funny thing is that people optimized texts for search engines in attempts to hack ranking black boxes. Hence ML AI was the reason for bullshit for quite some time long before LLMs.
      • sokoloff 3y ago
        AI content today is better than the worst human writers, but only because the worst human writers are so terrible. (Think of you trying to write an essay in a language that you’ve only studied for 3 months bad.) That doesn’t mean that LLMs are on a course to inevitably surpass the 90th percentile human writer (which is what most full-time writers presumably are). I may be a Luddite here, but I don’t expect that in my young kids’ lifetime.
        • Guthur 3y ago
          In my opinion LLM will never be able to replicate the human experience as it's solely based on language which in itself is only a poor facsimile of consciousness. If writing is our best attempt to share our personal psychic experience then all LLM can be is fragments of those experiences and can not in itself experience the presence of being that is human.
      • versteegen 3y ago
    • another2another 3y ago
      The other possible scenario is that people who want to create new content will quickly figure out that the LLMs are basically rewriting their original research and extracting all monetary worth from it, and so stop publishing in any medium that the bots can harvest the information. So all new discoveries will get walled off from the GPTs and we will be stuck with constantly regurgitated old information unless you go looking in paid for publications.
      • cudgy 3y ago
        What other scenario is there without human contributors getting properly compensated for their time and effort?
• coldtea 3y ago
  >If they don't employ writers, then who is going to be writing the magazine? Random freelancers on the cheap, with no/less content that needs serious preparation and months/year-long support to create.
  • madsbuch 3y ago
    People who have the subject matter as profession and not writing about the subject matter? I would love to freelance write for a software magazine while being a professional software engineer.
• koheripbal 3y ago
  You can still pay for high quality reporting. If you choose not to, then the question is back to you.
  • bmitc 3y ago
    The discussion isn't about me, unless you meant the general you. However, that may be the case, but it doesn't reach the scale of the amount of people on the Internet and the pressures of that plus capitalistic markets.
    • symlinkk 3y ago
      Sounds more like the market doesn’t value “high quality journalism” as much anymore. Especially when you can find primary sources covering events on social media for free. At least for tech news, comments on HN are more succinct, less biased, and more hard hitting than any tech news site I’ve seen.
      • berniedurfee 3y ago
        The market at large. There’s definitely a market for high quality news, but it’s too small to sustain a company. Great bloggers, vloggers and pod casters are the new great journalists.
      • bmitc 3y ago
        That is my point. The Internet is like a direct tap into the more primitive emotions of humans, linking them up across the world.
• passwordoops 3y ago
  >The Internet and capitalism don't make a good cocktail. Yeah what we have today is not capitalism, at least by Adam Smith's standard, and definitely not the capitalism that was practiced between the end of WW2 and Reagan. The US desperately needs to bring their anti-trust enforcement back to the standards of the post-war era
  • bmitc 3y ago
    I am definitely a fan of anti-trust, but it sounds like you're saying today's unbridled capitalism is not captialism but that when we didn't let captialism run wild by actually enforcing anti-trust regulations, that was capitalism. I am confused.
    • cudgy 3y ago
      Perhaps they are taking into account the increased current corporate welfare trends. Want money to build weapons and blow up some people outside the US? Sure no problem! Want money to recuperate from the massive investment losses your bank or company incurred due to your bad decisions? Sure no problem! Want another $30 a month for your social security disability check to account for inflation? Nah we can’t do that!
• berniedurfee 3y ago
  > If they don't employ writers, then who is going to be writing the magazine? I shudder to think.