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One of my cats has the IQ to play Tetris, for sure. I know what will happen if I connect a brain/computer interface to him and let him at it. The other cat is f

One of my cats has the IQ to play Tetris, for sure. I know what will happen if I connect a brain/computer interface to him and let him at it. The other cat is fucking retarded though.

jerrysievert 3y ago
I had an extremely smart and communicative cat. she monitored things and let me know when they were out of place, was able to clearly communicate complicated ideas, put her toys away in her toy box, and told on the other cats when they were doing something she knew wasn't approved of. my current cat is what I would consider above average, understands over 100 words, is very emotionally intelligent, and can communicate fairly well. she seems to have about 20-30 different vocalizations that we have agreed on, and is able to communicate that way; though not in the way of the other cat that could communicate ideas. of course, I've also had cats that were either on the dumb side, or didn't care enough about dealing with the humans to make themselves appear as smart. unfortunately, until we can define "consciousness" and measure it well, it will still be our own ideas on what is intelligent or conscious that we either observe with bias or make an emotional "guess" about.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  I find it enormously entertaining that mine actually has a "whining" vocalization when she is moved against her will, letting me know her displeasure in an impotent but palpable way. She knows I'll soothe her and lessen the blow; really makes me think cats aren't so different than children.
- Yizahi 3y ago
  Yes, we can't simply equate pattern matching with consciousness, otherwise we have to say that ChatGPT is conscious.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  how does an individual human pass this test?
  - euroderf 3y ago
    Maybe it doesn't. Them's the breaks.
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DropInIn 3y ago
Sooo... Pretty much just like humans then?
- sheepdestroyer 3y ago
  Alright, maybe... But it's still OK to farm them industrially, with no repercussions for unnecessary suffering, since they don't have a soul. Or something
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    Sure, in the same way they all eat each other. It's almost exclusively carnivores/omnivores who fit this description, not herbivores....
    - sheepdestroyer 3y ago
      Oh yes, my bad. I totally disregarded the industrial scale max-suffering chicken factories made by foxes.
      - DropInIn 3y ago
        Yea because some suffering before being beheaded is far worse than being slowly eaten alive.... Do you even comprehend how carnivores eat?

One of my cats has the IQ to play Tetris, for sure. I know what will happen if I connect a brain/computer interface to him and let him at it. The other cat is fucking retarded though.

jerrysievert 3y ago

I had an extremely smart and communicative cat. she monitored things and let me know when they were out of place, was able to clearly communicate complicated ideas, put her toys away in her toy box, and told on the other cats when they were doing something she knew wasn't approved of. my current cat is what I would consider above average, understands over 100 words, is very emotionally intelligent, and can communicate fairly well. she seems to have about 20-30 different vocalizations that we have agreed on, and is able to communicate that way; though not in the way of the other cat that could communicate ideas. of course, I've also had cats that were either on the dumb side, or didn't care enough about dealing with the humans to make themselves appear as smart. unfortunately, until we can define "consciousness" and measure it well, it will still be our own ideas on what is intelligent or conscious that we either observe with bias or make an emotional "guess" about.

Obscurity4340 3y ago
I find it enormously entertaining that mine actually has a "whining" vocalization when she is moved against her will, letting me know her displeasure in an impotent but palpable way. She knows I'll soothe her and lessen the blow; really makes me think cats aren't so different than children.
Yizahi 3y ago
Yes, we can't simply equate pattern matching with consciousness, otherwise we have to say that ChatGPT is conscious.
yieldcrv 3y ago
how does an individual human pass this test?
- euroderf 3y ago
  Maybe it doesn't. Them's the breaks.

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DropInIn 3y ago

Sooo... Pretty much just like humans then?

sheepdestroyer 3y ago
Alright, maybe... But it's still OK to farm them industrially, with no repercussions for unnecessary suffering, since they don't have a soul. Or something
- DropInIn 3y ago
  Sure, in the same way they all eat each other. It's almost exclusively carnivores/omnivores who fit this description, not herbivores....
  - sheepdestroyer 3y ago
    Oh yes, my bad. I totally disregarded the industrial scale max-suffering chicken factories made by foxes.
    - DropInIn 3y ago
      Yea because some suffering before being beheaded is far worse than being slowly eaten alive.... Do you even comprehend how carnivores eat?