>But it's frickin' 2023, those users need a better onboarding experience than having to futz with Emacs Funny, the years spent onboarding Emacs, and GNU/Linux

>But it's frickin' 2023, those users need a better onboarding experience than having to futz with Emacs Funny, the years spent onboarding Emacs, and GNU/Linux for that matter, was the experience I was looking for.I never wanted to be just another cog in a well lubed task grinding machine. >they shouldn't have to entirely relearn how to write code If you are referring to elisp, it really isn't a mountain to climb or anything like that. Besides, only very basic lisp knowledge is required to customize Emacs, after that you can code your day away in a lisp of your choosing. If you are looking for a more modern experience with emacs try elgot + tree-sitter [1] [1]: https://www.adventuresinwhy.com/post/eglot/ https://www.adventuresinwhy.com/post/eglot/