3 ms·

Eric didn’t manage to do his internship but we still offered to pay for the whole thing. We missed one invoice and accounts asked him to send details so he cou

• ShamelessC 3y ago
  I don't know, those interactions seem to me like you aren't aware of or don't respect the huge power differential between the two of you, the pressures involved on Eric, and the emotional toll that startup culture (for instance) can incur on someone who is starting off in their career and doesn't understand how precisely to navigate the pressures of evaluating ethical scenarios with limited information while also trying to do a "good job" as measured by leadership. He's a pretty bright guy in my interactions with him and his heart is in the right place. I'm willing to bet he lands on his feet elsewhere and does just fine in life. And from where I stand, a person's paycheck is a metaphor for their livelihood, sometimes a very literal metaphor. Missing one payment might seem mundane, but it is entirely outside of the norm and is _definitely_ a situation which should cause employees to re-evaluate how much they trust their employer. It's probably not wise to imply anyone who does this is "overreacting as that will simply further erode the trust. Instead, you apologize, apologize, and apologize again and again. Which isn't me asking you to post five tweets where you apologized.
  • emadm 3y ago
    I did apologise and apologise again recompense when payment was late during a difficult time in the scale up and stepped in with my own money. I agree Eric is bright and so wanted to support him through an internship where he had lots of freedom. He didn’t manage to do it (as noted in his tweets) but I offered to pay anyway and also offered other support. One invoice went to the wrong address (our fault) and as soon as he asked about it we apologised and asked him for details so we could settle it immediately as well as asking him for the third invoice he never sent (again for work not done). We made mistakes and struggled as we scaled, faster than anyone could have imagined but always try to improve as folk should. Power differentials are tough and complex but in this case we tried to be understanding and apologise when at fault and now he is on a crusade against the org per his tweets and it’s a bit tiring when half the org was hired from non traditional backgrounds and the community. I honestly wish the best for him and hope that hate dies down, he will be happier that way.
    • fallat 3y ago
      Hey, you're doing great. Remember that you can't make everyone happy, and others will try to take you down. Mistakes happen to everyone. Just thought I'd give you a bit a positivity :) Sincerely a fellow person
  • gettodachoppa 3y ago
    >Power differentials >Pressures >Literal livelyhood Cool your jets, guy. They sent the payment to the wrong address and when he brings it up they reach out to him asking for for the new address and you're acting like some capitalist kingpin stole from some poor honest laborer. The terms you use make you come off as a Twitter outrage addict. They're red flags when used liberally to something minor like this. Reading the interactions between Callahan and Mostaque, Callahan seems more interested in scoring outrage points on Twitter than the money, does that indicate a desperately broke person whose "literal livelyhood" is at stake? If I do a gig for a company and they mess up the check and asks me to confirm the address to send me a new 6k check, I don't go on Twitter and complain "Waaaah!!! I shouldn't have to do this! A PROPERLY RUN company wouldn't ask this! I can't even rn!", etc, I simply give them the updated info and the matter is closed. And the hilarity of Callahan whose was too mentally fragile and inexperienced to finish an internship (by his own admission) acting like he knows how well-run large companies function! I'm gonna say what his daddy should have told him years ago: take some responsability, and stop being so weak. This goes for Callahan and to people like you who are blowing up this nothingburger.
    • ShamelessC 3y ago
      Personal attacks are against the rules here fyi