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But Gentoo switched to OpenRC, Debian forked to Devuan, Arch forked to Artix: all these main distros were using SysV and now a part of their users are using an
by henearkr 3y ago
But Gentoo switched to OpenRC, Debian forked to Devuan, Arch forked to Artix: all these main distros were using SysV and now a part of their users are using an alternative system.
- anonbanker 3y agostill using init scripts on OpenRC.
- freedomben 3y agoWhat's the market share of those though? I've networked with a lot of devops/sysadmins and I can't to my recollection ever remember somebody using Devuan or Artix, and it's rare indeed to hear somebody using Gentoo. I'm not dismissing them because they aren't popular, but I do think it's not very reasonable to call the market fragmented when the nons are such a small percentage of overall use.
- nerdponx 3y agoWho is ever going to run Arch on a server anyway? I've used Obarun a bit in a VM and enjoyed using 66 Suite. I wouldn't use it at work (again mostly because it's Arch and we use Docker for everything anyway so no need for init), but I would consider using it on a home project server.
- ilyt 3y agoYeah ain't nobody using those.
- henearkr 3y agoGNU/Linux is a nebula of many blocks that sometimes compete for the same role, but heavily rely on intercompatibility and adapter layers in order to allow users to choose the one they prefer in each spot (I know this has been less the case with Gnome recently, for example, but the ideal would be to stick to the principle). Even though the SysV shim layer can be maintained outside of RedHat, their decision is still a spoke in our wheels.
- ilyt 3y agoRight but the decision has been made and ones that didn't go with systemd are probably fraction of a percent by installation count. Doesn't make sense to keep the cruft, especially that the alternative (writing unit to some app not delivering one) is like 5-10 lines of text and 5 minutes of work.