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> I am not very good with people though. It's not about being good with people. Plenty of people are introverts - that's fine. Many are neurodiverse. However,

by throw14082020 3y ago

> I am not very good with people though. It's not about being good with people. Plenty of people are introverts - that's fine. Many are neurodiverse. However, it's pretty important in society to be honest and not-fraudulent. You've lost a lot of trust. It's not that you're not good with people. You're manipulative and people are not good with you anymore. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/06/04/stable-diffusion-emad-mostaque-stability-ai-exaggeration/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/06/04/stable-di...

emadm 3y ago
That was an awful piece of journalism where they ignored multiple factual corrections after spending days with me. Even met the family and made fun of my work on my sons autism which shows what they are like. How many companies preseed get a 4,000 A100 cluster dedicated built from AWS etc? I wrote a reply anyway as this stuff makes me sad Happy to reply to any issues you may have here too https://emad.posthaven.com/on-setting-the-record-straight https://emad.posthaven.com/on-setting-the-record-straight
- orf 3y ago
  > AWS built an incredibly rare dedicated compute cluster completed in August 2022 to the requirements of Stability. The 4,000 A100 cluster has dedicated capacity on a single spline which optimizes performance and is one of the only ones there This wording really doesn’t help your case. It sounds like a total exaggeration. Link to the AWS case study that highlights this relationship, or absolutely anything than just repeating “we are one of the only companies to have AWS buy a million GPUs for us and let us use them and it’s one of the only ones in this part of AWS’s network. Source: trust me bro”
  - emadm 3y ago
    We actually have a blog post coming on specifically this from AWS, at the time it was the 8th largest public A100 cluster and we covered it live again while we were preseed well before the funding round https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1553120829336129537?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1553120829336129537?s=4... It was super interesting as an experience. At the very least anyone who has used AWS for ML can tell you that getting a 40 A100 quota let alone 4,000 is a feat in itself ^_^
- ShamelessC 3y ago
  Your response suggests you have fully compensated Eric Hallahan? This is at odds with the Forbes piece. I doubt you yourself can clear this up (it's a he-said/she-said conundrum) - but perhaps Eric is around to confirm/deny this?
  - emadm 3y ago
    Eric didn’t manage to do his internship but we still offered to pay for the whole thing. We missed one invoice and accounts asked him to send details so he could settle but instead he decided to a month later say that stuff to Forbes then said straight out he didn’t want it paid https://twitter.com/erichallahan/status/1639695790724591618?s=46 https://twitter.com/erichallahan/status/1639695790724591618?... https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1665520024080068609?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1665520024080068609?s=4... Idk I hope he’s ok https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1671287589507063812?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1671287589507063812?s=4...
    - ShamelessC 3y ago
      I don't know, those interactions seem to me like you aren't aware of or don't respect the huge power differential between the two of you, the pressures involved on Eric, and the emotional toll that startup culture (for instance) can incur on someone who is starting off in their career and doesn't understand how precisely to navigate the pressures of evaluating ethical scenarios with limited information while also trying to do a "good job" as measured by leadership. He's a pretty bright guy in my interactions with him and his heart is in the right place. I'm willing to bet he lands on his feet elsewhere and does just fine in life. And from where I stand, a person's paycheck is a metaphor for their livelihood, sometimes a very literal metaphor. Missing one payment might seem mundane, but it is entirely outside of the norm and is _definitely_ a situation which should cause employees to re-evaluate how much they trust their employer. It's probably not wise to imply anyone who does this is "overreacting as that will simply further erode the trust. Instead, you apologize, apologize, and apologize again and again. Which isn't me asking you to post five tweets where you apologized.
      - 3y ago
rahimnathwani 3y ago
I followed the link, but stopped reading at the beginning of paragraph 2: In reality, Mostaque has a bachelor’s degree, not a master’s degree from Oxford. This sentence is odd. Anyone who receives a bachelor's degree from Oxford qualifies to receive master's degree also, so long as they live for at least 7 years after they matriculate (aka enroll). So, as long as Emad finished his undergraduate studies at least 4 years ago, he qualifies to receive master's degree. Officially, the degree is not 'awarded' until you attend a graduation ceremony, or graduate 'in absentia' (i.e. have your name read out at a graduation ceremony).
- emadm 3y ago
  Yes we told them this and other things multiple times You don’t actually get your bachelors or masters without either going to ceremony or asking for it in absentia so like I’m going to get them in a few weeks, do a photoshoot
frankreyes 3y ago
Why are people still reading Forbes? Their track record is bad (FTX, Theranos, SVB, etc) and the Forbes founder was very clear about their purpose: “You make more money selling advice than following it. It’s one of the things we count on in the magazine business – along with the short memory of our readers.” — Steve Forbes

emadm 3y ago

That was an awful piece of journalism where they ignored multiple factual corrections after spending days with me. Even met the family and made fun of my work on my sons autism which shows what they are like. How many companies preseed get a 4,000 A100 cluster dedicated built from AWS etc? I wrote a reply anyway as this stuff makes me sad Happy to reply to any issues you may have here too https://emad.posthaven.com/on-setting-the-record-straight https://emad.posthaven.com/on-setting-the-record-straight

orf 3y ago
> AWS built an incredibly rare dedicated compute cluster completed in August 2022 to the requirements of Stability. The 4,000 A100 cluster has dedicated capacity on a single spline which optimizes performance and is one of the only ones there This wording really doesn’t help your case. It sounds like a total exaggeration. Link to the AWS case study that highlights this relationship, or absolutely anything than just repeating “we are one of the only companies to have AWS buy a million GPUs for us and let us use them and it’s one of the only ones in this part of AWS’s network. Source: trust me bro”
- emadm 3y ago
  We actually have a blog post coming on specifically this from AWS, at the time it was the 8th largest public A100 cluster and we covered it live again while we were preseed well before the funding round https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1553120829336129537?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1553120829336129537?s=4... It was super interesting as an experience. At the very least anyone who has used AWS for ML can tell you that getting a 40 A100 quota let alone 4,000 is a feat in itself ^_^
ShamelessC 3y ago
Your response suggests you have fully compensated Eric Hallahan? This is at odds with the Forbes piece. I doubt you yourself can clear this up (it's a he-said/she-said conundrum) - but perhaps Eric is around to confirm/deny this?
- emadm 3y ago
  Eric didn’t manage to do his internship but we still offered to pay for the whole thing. We missed one invoice and accounts asked him to send details so he could settle but instead he decided to a month later say that stuff to Forbes then said straight out he didn’t want it paid https://twitter.com/erichallahan/status/1639695790724591618?s=46 https://twitter.com/erichallahan/status/1639695790724591618?... https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1665520024080068609?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1665520024080068609?s=4... Idk I hope he’s ok https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1671287589507063812?s=46 https://twitter.com/emostaque/status/1671287589507063812?s=4...
  - ShamelessC 3y ago
    I don't know, those interactions seem to me like you aren't aware of or don't respect the huge power differential between the two of you, the pressures involved on Eric, and the emotional toll that startup culture (for instance) can incur on someone who is starting off in their career and doesn't understand how precisely to navigate the pressures of evaluating ethical scenarios with limited information while also trying to do a "good job" as measured by leadership. He's a pretty bright guy in my interactions with him and his heart is in the right place. I'm willing to bet he lands on his feet elsewhere and does just fine in life. And from where I stand, a person's paycheck is a metaphor for their livelihood, sometimes a very literal metaphor. Missing one payment might seem mundane, but it is entirely outside of the norm and is _definitely_ a situation which should cause employees to re-evaluate how much they trust their employer. It's probably not wise to imply anyone who does this is "overreacting as that will simply further erode the trust. Instead, you apologize, apologize, and apologize again and again. Which isn't me asking you to post five tweets where you apologized.
    - 3y ago

rahimnathwani 3y ago

I followed the link, but stopped reading at the beginning of paragraph 2: In reality, Mostaque has a bachelor’s degree, not a master’s degree from Oxford. This sentence is odd. Anyone who receives a bachelor's degree from Oxford qualifies to receive master's degree also, so long as they live for at least 7 years after they matriculate (aka enroll). So, as long as Emad finished his undergraduate studies at least 4 years ago, he qualifies to receive master's degree. Officially, the degree is not 'awarded' until you attend a graduation ceremony, or graduate 'in absentia' (i.e. have your name read out at a graduation ceremony).

emadm 3y ago
Yes we told them this and other things multiple times You don’t actually get your bachelors or masters without either going to ceremony or asking for it in absentia so like I’m going to get them in a few weeks, do a photoshoot

frankreyes 3y ago

Why are people still reading Forbes? Their track record is bad (FTX, Theranos, SVB, etc) and the Forbes founder was very clear about their purpose: “You make more money selling advice than following it. It’s one of the things we count on in the magazine business – along with the short memory of our readers.” — Steve Forbes