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When they first released the CIA psychic documents I clicked a few at random and my impressions were much different. The papers I read were very much "We're con

When they first released the CIA psychic documents I clicked a few at random and my impressions were much different. The papers I read were very much "We're conducting this experiment on remote viewing. Here are our procedures and results."

godelski 3y ago
And the results were...
- chihuahua 3y ago
  ...that there's a guy who says some other people told him that it totally worked.
Hikikomori 3y ago
And great experiments like randomly dosing Americans with LSD and torturing war prisoners to death.
nl 3y ago
This is a different thing. The CIA's experiments were done with at least an attempt at doing science (and didn't work). The parent is talking about field reports, not an experimental program.
heavyset_go 3y ago
The government threw a lot of money at that and did direct experimentation, but dig deeper into the weird claims some of those that were adjacent to remote viewing were making/continue to make outside of that and you start getting into that territory. Things like aliens, teleportation, levitation, pyrokinesis, etc. I remember seeing one document that was about a person claiming to being able to do some kind of teleportation of objects through containers, so the investigators went to see them do it and it appeared that it happened. That's more of a magic show than a real experiment, but because the investigators described what they appeared to see on government letterhead, believers in the paranormal upgraded it to fact instead of field notes. Same thing happens with reports of UFOs or aliens, their portrayal of evidence of conspiracy rely heavily on twisting testimony, descriptions and appearances in the text into "facts confirmed and approved of by the government."
- rodgerd 3y ago
  I hope you've taken the time to read The Men Who Stare At Goats, which is definitely solidly in the "tax dollars went where?!" genre.

godelski 3y ago

And the results were...

chihuahua 3y ago
...that there's a guy who says some other people told him that it totally worked.

Hikikomori 3y ago

And great experiments like randomly dosing Americans with LSD and torturing war prisoners to death.

nl 3y ago

This is a different thing. The CIA's experiments were done with at least an attempt at doing science (and didn't work). The parent is talking about field reports, not an experimental program.

heavyset_go 3y ago

The government threw a lot of money at that and did direct experimentation, but dig deeper into the weird claims some of those that were adjacent to remote viewing were making/continue to make outside of that and you start getting into that territory. Things like aliens, teleportation, levitation, pyrokinesis, etc. I remember seeing one document that was about a person claiming to being able to do some kind of teleportation of objects through containers, so the investigators went to see them do it and it appeared that it happened. That's more of a magic show than a real experiment, but because the investigators described what they appeared to see on government letterhead, believers in the paranormal upgraded it to fact instead of field notes. Same thing happens with reports of UFOs or aliens, their portrayal of evidence of conspiracy rely heavily on twisting testimony, descriptions and appearances in the text into "facts confirmed and approved of by the government."

rodgerd 3y ago
I hope you've taken the time to read The Men Who Stare At Goats, which is definitely solidly in the "tax dollars went where?!" genre.