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A real eye opener regarding this has been the ongoing war in Ukraine. For some reason I always had this picture of war being people constantly hiding in bunkers

A real eye opener regarding this has been the ongoing war in Ukraine. For some reason I always had this picture of war being people constantly hiding in bunkers, looting and stealing in a sort of apocalyptic doomsday prepper way, whoever remains working in tank factories around the clock, that sort of thing. But no, their entire country is being blown up on a daily basis, apartments being hit by cruise missiles, streets being shelled and people just go to work and school or whatever like it's business as usual. I guess in the end, what else can you really do? Life is banal. Like if the imminent threat of grisly death doesn't get people to stop living in a society then literally nothing else will. Not aliens, not AGI, not the return of Jesus, not even everyone magically turning into frogs. Well ok that last one might do it.

lisasays 3y ago
Their entire country is being blown up on a daily basis, That's the thing - except for places very close to the front lines, only very tiny portion of the country is getting hit. So no, it's not "the entire country, on a daily basis". You are correct though that the media loves to paint it as a 24x7 apocalyptic hellscape (mostly via selective imagery, independent of what is actually said in the articles). That's how they get your anxiety molecules jumping, and thus make their money, after all.
barbariangrunge 3y ago
> Life is banal. I wouldn't word it like that
- pc86 3y ago
  Why not?
  - barbariangrunge 3y ago
    > banal: so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring. People going to work every day while there are bombs dropping, in the middle of a war, trying to keep the exchange of goods going so they can pay for the war and to survive, is not banal. It's not obvious that people would go to work in a war zone, and it's not boring, and in many times in history people did not go to work during a war (except for farmers, whose lives depended on it)
    - pc86 3y ago
      They didn't say war is banal, they said life is - which it is. Going to work every day, going to the gym, making dinner, doing laundry. Most of it's boring, and a lot of it you have to do whether or not something 100 miles away is getting bombed.
asdff 3y ago
>For some reason I always had this picture of war being people constantly hiding in bunkers, looting and stealing in a sort of apocalyptic doomsday prepper way, whoever remains working in tank factories around the clock, that sort of thing. For cities actively under siege, that's exactly how it is though. Read about St. Petersburg or the battle of Vukovar.

lisasays 3y ago

Their entire country is being blown up on a daily basis, That's the thing - except for places very close to the front lines, only very tiny portion of the country is getting hit. So no, it's not "the entire country, on a daily basis". You are correct though that the media loves to paint it as a 24x7 apocalyptic hellscape (mostly via selective imagery, independent of what is actually said in the articles). That's how they get your anxiety molecules jumping, and thus make their money, after all.

barbariangrunge 3y ago

> Life is banal. I wouldn't word it like that

pc86 3y ago
Why not?
- barbariangrunge 3y ago
  > banal: so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring. People going to work every day while there are bombs dropping, in the middle of a war, trying to keep the exchange of goods going so they can pay for the war and to survive, is not banal. It's not obvious that people would go to work in a war zone, and it's not boring, and in many times in history people did not go to work during a war (except for farmers, whose lives depended on it)
  - pc86 3y ago
    They didn't say war is banal, they said life is - which it is. Going to work every day, going to the gym, making dinner, doing laundry. Most of it's boring, and a lot of it you have to do whether or not something 100 miles away is getting bombed.

asdff 3y ago

>For some reason I always had this picture of war being people constantly hiding in bunkers, looting and stealing in a sort of apocalyptic doomsday prepper way, whoever remains working in tank factories around the clock, that sort of thing. For cities actively under siege, that's exactly how it is though. Read about St. Petersburg or the battle of Vukovar.